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Voice Coaches Radio #436 – Running with Phone Messages
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And welcome into this edition of Voice Coach's Radio. I am Josh, he is Sam. We are delighted to have you joining us. Sam, how we doing my friend?
Josh, I'm doing so well because that intro that you just did. I've been missing it. Oh, I know, right? I tried to recreate it a couple times, and I really, like, even, I'm listening to you do it, and mine was a far cry from what you just did.
You know, stop.
It was like, and welcome into the voice coach's radio. That was my version.
No, it's good. I like that. I like that. Yeah, it's, uh, it's got that, uh, that, uh, game show host feel to it. And now. I try to go for the lounge lizard feel. Hey, welcome in. Let's turn the lights down a little bit. This little dude is going out to the lady in the back.
It's like Bill Murray in Saturday Night Live. Oh yeah. Yeah. Star Wars. Nothing but Star Wars.
I love that sketch. Uh, so uh, yeah. So I haven't been here in a while. I mean I've been here, but I haven't been on the, on the mode.
You've been busy. You've been on vacation. You've been running. You've been running a lot.
I have. Yeah. So I think I had a wedding that, that I was going to in New Jersey a few weeks ago. And then, uh, yeah. And then last week I had, uh, and I know we, we had talked about it. I had the, uh, the Peak to Brew. Peak to brew. And, uh, that was a a 227 mile relay race Who, uh, that took us 31 hours and 59 minutes.
Oh my God. Um, and it was a, I, first of all, I was terrified. , like, I was so nervous. Why were you nervous? Oh my God. I don't know. Like, just everything about it. Like the running part I was kind of nervous about. It was just everything just. being in a van for that long with people, including people I didn't know, um, it was, uh, I was, I was, I'm an anxious person by nature and, uh, that, that definitely, uh, set off my anxiety a little bit, but no, it was, it was a blast.
It was, we started, um, so it was last, uh, last Thursday, we drove up to Lake Placid and, um, stayed at a hotel in Lake Placid. And then Friday morning at 8 AM, we drove to the top of Whiteface mountain and it was so foggy. We couldn't see it. Damn thing. Uh, and that's, uh, so cool. And that's where the race started.
Started. We, we started at eight o'clock and um, that's where the first leg ran. I was like five of 12. And our first runner, uh, ran. And, uh, my legs were 5.2 miles, 2.3 miles, 6.1 miles and six miles. Wow. Um, and my third leg, my 6.1 mile leg, began at five o'clock in the morning. Woo. Yeah, it was early and raining, which I could have done without.
Um, but, uh, but no, it was, it was a blast. It really was. It was a ton of fun. The scenery out there, my goodness. I've never been out to like blasted or, or any of those areas. Um, uh, mirror Lake and Tupper Lake and, um, old Ford and all those areas. Like I I've never been to those areas. Oh, just gorgeous up there.
Um, and then just, you know, we got to see the sunrise that, uh, you know, Saturday morning and then we stayed at a B& B, uh, outside of Utica that night and, uh, you know, just, just really, really a lot of fun and, uh, super, super pretty. So I, I had a blast. I had an absolute blast. My legs are dead, but that's okay.
You know, since you've been telling me all about this, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna be like Josh. I went running this morning. I really did. No one should be like me. No, but I was just like, you, you, the other day you made a comment, you were like, Yeah, I just ran like seven miles, you know, no big deal.
I just run seven miles on average now. And I'm like, okay, I got you Josh. So I was like, I'm going to try to run again. And I did this morning. I mapped it out last night. I made a map. I figured out we're actually a house sitting right now for Jocelyn's sister. And we're, I mapped out this, uh, this route that'd probably take me about.
It was six and a half miles. That's more than I usually run. You know, a five run, a five run is a really good run for me. That's about as far as I typically go. I haven't run in, let's say, a couple weeks. Probably, probably a month, really, truthfully. So I went out this morning, I started it, and at about two miles in, I'm like, F this, I am out, no, I can't.
I can tell you exactly how you're feeling right now. You're feeling okay. And then tomorrow's gonna happen. Go back and run again. D O M S DOMS. Delayed onset muscle soreness. Oh, oh. You don't get sore right 18 to 24 hours later, you're like, Ooh, that's not fun. So you're like, you're telling me I'm gonna be in pain tomorrow.
That is what I'm telling you, yes. That is potentially by the end of today, but, uh, yeah, probably, probably tomorrow. Yeah. No, because I had to get back into, uh, to my marathon training cause I still have that coming up in October. Um, I have a half coming up next month. Oh my gosh. And, uh, so that one, you know, that one, I'm not too, too worried about the marathon.
That's a, it's a lot of, that's, that's many, many, many much miles. And I'm a little, uh, Concern.
Many miles moving. Yeah.
So, uh, so I, I did five yesterday. I did seven on Wednesday. I'm off today and tomorrow and then Sunday I'm scheduled to run 14.
Whoa, holy cow. I've never run 14 miles. That's amazing.
Me neither actually.
So we're going to see how that works out. Not, uh, not sure how that one's going to go. Do you listen to music when you run? I do usually. Yeah. Okay. I do. Um, I have, uh, uh, I have a new set of, of headphones there. I don't remember who makes them, but they're bone conductivity headphones and they don't go in your ear.
They go just outside your ear, uh, on the bone, like between, like outside your, your ear next to your jaw. And it actually transmits the, the audio, uh, through wavelengths through the bone rather than through the air in your ear. And what that means is it means that your ear is clear so you can hear things.
That's cool. So like if a car is coming, I'll be able to hear that. Or someone yells at me, like, Hey. Get out of the way, idiot. Yeah, something like that. Like, I'll be able to know. Or, like, are you dying? Like, yeah, I can answer that. Yes, I am. Because I can hear you. Uh, and then they're awesome. They're, they're really awesome.
Especially for, like, this past trip, because we ran most of the roads we ran on were, you know, regular open roads. Um. You know, and so you wanted to make sure you could hear the cars that were going to hit you. Um, I don't think anyone got hit. No one got hit. Uh, I did and I think I told you this. Yeah, there was a, a bear warning.
It's so crazy. Uh, yeah, we got a text message from HQ at one point, uh, that there was a bear that was spotted running across the road. Uh, and I was like, and literally it's like, yeah, it's like, uh, Hey, uh, there was bear spotted. Here's where it was spotted. So, you know, just be alert. And I'm like, be alert.
What do you expect me to do? Like, oh, there's a bear. Cool. Uh, I just peed myself. Like, I don't know what exactly I was supposed to be on alert for, like, I'd rather not see the bear. Right? We were talking about, uh, last year, and I didn't do it last year, but apparently there was a warning that someone spotted a mountain lion at one point, which I'm not sure is true because I don't think you'd actually spot a mountain lion.
I feel like the mountain lion would spot you. Yeah, absolutely. It would spot you. That looks like a delicious meal. And, and, and that would be how that would go. Like the text message would not be like, Hey, mountain lion was spotted. It would be, Hey, mountain lion ate a runner. So watch out for that. Um, but I mean, you know, what am I supposed to do when I see a bear?
Oh, I saw a bear. Okay.
Um, you know what you're doing? You see a bear, you run faster.
I'm going to keep just run. I'm not sure. 19 miles, man. I'm not sure I could have much faster in me.
Yeah, but if you, if you actually, you didn't see the bear, if you saw the bear, I bet you would be like double time. You'd be surprised.
The other thing that, uh, the text that came around was there was a loose dog that was on the course and actually chased a runner. And I'll tell you what, I'll take the bear. I'll take the bear. Yeah. Uh, cause the bear probably wants nothing to do with you. Bears probably like, Hey, unless they're really hungry.
Yeah, really hungry, maybe like sick or something like that, or if you're messing with their cubs, which I wouldn't recommend, but like, you know, the bear is probably like, Hey, I'm just trying to get across the literally, it was like bear cross the road and run up a tree. Like that's a very bare thing to do, but like the dogs like chased a runner.
And like, if I'm, I don't know, I want nothing with that. Like that dog's like, I'm going to eat you and bite you. Bear's like, I just want to cross the road. That's true. Maybe poop in the woods. I know. And if I know, if a bear does that, if bears do, and as a baby bear, I'm going to tell you, Yes, they do. That's the rumor.
That's what they do. That's the rumor. Um, so yeah, that would be that'd be too but actually interesting note We uh, we just got the results and we finished ninth out of 59 teams. That's crazy, which is which is congratulations. Thank you We're actually really impressed with that because we weren't really worried too too much about uh about our pace.
We just wanted to not die or get eaten. Uh, and we succeeded in all events. So no, it was blast. It was an absolute blast. Highly recommend running 230 miles.
So you were anxious when you started running to the anxiety, just like disappear.
Um, so he said, my first leg. When I got handed my first leg, I took off like a bat out of hell.
I just went hauling down the road and about three quarters of a mile in, I was like, well, that was dumb. Uh, but the thing is, I was so amped up. I was like, I need to calm myself down. Like, I was like, forget about slowing down. I just need to calm myself down, lower my heart rate a little bit, lower my blood pressure.
Breathing a little bit because I took off way too fast because you do get juiced up you get amped up Um, especially because every single person in this we are six people in each van and every person in my van was Way faster than me. Um, we had uh, a few guys that I worked out with at the gym, uh, one of them who is Our about a month or two ago ran a 50 mile ultra marathon and is training for a hundred mile marathon So he's clearly better than me.
Uh, there was a guy who ran the mile at Northeastern in college, uh, when I was there. So he's clearly faster than me. And then there were, were two girls who also both ran track, um, collegiately at, uh, at Plattsburgh. So they're both faster than me. And one of them literally were in the van and she had done it last year.
And it was Katie and she'd done it last year. And she was like, yeah, I really didn't train much this year. She's like, I just did like four miles this past week. And I only got like just under an eight minute pace. She's like, so this is gonna be slow. And I'm like, Oh, okay. I, you know, I, yeah, just under, that's so slow.
Like, I was like, that's your slow pace. Cool. That's awesome. I am the weakest link in this chain for sure. So, you know, you, you, you, you go out quick, but yeah. So, I mean, eventually, I mean, five miles has taken me what 40 and change minutes. And so after like 10 minutes, you calm down at some point. Um, but yeah, by that point, I was, you know.
But the other thing is, like, so when I ran my from the time I ran my first leg to the time I run my second leg, my second leg was only 2. 3 miles. It was like eight and a half hours between runs. So it's really weird because you have all this time in between. So like, yeah, I ran 19 and a half miles, but like it was split up over the time the course of 30 hours.
So it's a, it's a very weird sensation, but I did manage to sleep for 45 minutes. That was unfortunate.
But even when you're running though, I know for when I did my half marathon many, many years ago, I got like three hours of sleep the night before because we had to drive. There was always like, there's just, there's so many things.
It's really early in the morning. And then I w I was really tired until I started running and I'm like, Oh, I feel fine. You know what I mean? Like once you're actually in the work doesn't matter.
Especially like my last leg. My last leg was my fastest. Uh, the last six miles was the second to last leg. And, and.
That one. And, and I kind of went with the, you know, the, the premise of, oh, this is it, you know, don't just go, you're done after this. This is it. Uh, and so, you know, yeah, it kind of passes. Although there is, there, there does always come a point like halfway through the run where you're like, whoa, what did you do?
And then, then it, that kind of passes. So yeah, it comes and goes. It comes in waves. It comes in waves.
Do you have a last running question I got for you? Do you have. a mantra or like a song or like when you start feeling like, oh gosh, I can't do this anymore. I'm so tired. Uh, just like, do you have a, somebody start talking to yourself?
Do you like berate yourself? What do you do?
Keep swimming. Yes. Oh, I love it. No, you know what? I, I really don't. I have certain songs that, uh, that, that definitely jacked me up more than others. Uh, and I'm a big music guy. Um, so that's why I find music helps me run just because of, you know, uh, I love music.
Um, So so that that's definitely helpful. I really don't have a, you know, a mantra per se. Um, just go nice, you know, just go.
I know that's just go shut up and go. I know for me, once it starts getting hard, I used to just be like, I, I, I like to know in my mind about. about where I'm at. Like, I kind of be like, okay, I'm a quarter of the way through the run.
Okay. I'm halfway through the run. And if I'm halfway through, it's like only another half to go, only another half to go. And then I get to like the three quarter mark. I'm like, okay, only a quarter to go only a quarter. And I just keep repeating that over and over.
That's a dangerous game though. That's a dangerous game.
Cause you're like, Oh, I'm only a quarter of the way done. That's not good. That's not good. That's true. So it, I do hear what you're saying. And I definitely do that to an extent. Right. And I keep an eye on my, my watch. And again, the, the, the distances are you. Approximates. So like my 5. 2 mile was more like 5.
4. And then when you get to 5. 2 and you're not done, you're like, uh, Hey, what's supposed to be done now guys? I was told, I was told this is where I was going to finish. And this is where I'm not finishing. This baby bear is going to poop in the woods to protest. So, I mean, like it's, it's tough, man. It's tough about, um, you know, in, in that regard.
But, um, yeah, I guess I don't really have a mantra per se, but it's, uh, my mantra is pain is, is, is inevitable. Suffering is, I don't know, suffering is, is optional. That was in the book. That was, that was in, in, in the book. I literally read the introduction yesterday. The, uh, what I talked about,
Oh, cool. Oh. And speaking of voice.
Oh, that's what he talks about. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, great.
Oh, he says he has someone who has that. Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's true. I think that's a Buddhist premise, or um, I don't know, maybe it's just an old adage. But yeah, Josh is reading this book right now by Hiroki Murakami, who's a Japanese writer, and he has a book that, and I've read it many years ago, it's all on running, and he's a writer, and he basically talks about how he became a writer in the, through the lens of becoming a marathon, an ultra marathon, like long distance runner, and equates the two things.
And what's interesting is, as I was doing a little research on him, most of his writing is like, It's mostly fiction, and it's mostly like fantasy fiction. Yes, it's really Like, it's way out there.
I've read a couple of his books. They're really, it's like surreal. Yeah. It's magical realism, is how I would describe it.
It's like, the premise of That's how I'd describe you. That's why I like his book so much. Uh, the premises of all of his books start out basically with somebody Uh, A Wind Up Bird Chronicles. Here's a great example. I'll give you a concrete example. The book starts, a man is making pasta. It always starts with somebody making food, and his cat's missing, and then all of a sudden he, so he's spending his day, and he, then you learn that he's just been recently unemployed, and he's looking for his cat, but then his wife goes missing, and this is just the beginning, and he's just searching for his cat and his wife, and it takes him into like the underworld of Tokyo, there's this magical element that's very surreal, but it always starts very benign.
It's really, it's really great, it's a really, I'm not a big fantasy guy. I need to, I need to make pasta. I don't like, I'll say it. I'll say it on the podcast. I don't like Game of Thrones. I'm not a big Game of Throner. I know I've probably lost the only fans we had by saying that I like things based in realism that can then be magical.
And I think Murakami really walks that line incredibly well.
I mean, Game of Thrones could be real. There are dragons. You know, they exist. That's true. They exist. How dare you? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've never, I've never seen it like ever. I don't have HBO. Um, so I've never.
Never seen it. I've, I saw like one episode, so it's true.
It's premature of me to judge it, but that's what I do, I guess. Fair enough. But we also have some voiceover stuff to talk about. We do. Because somebody in the room did a voiceover job recently.
I did. Me, yeah. A couple weeks ago. It's not me, me, no. A couple weeks ago. Yeah. I did a uh, I did a, a voiceover piece.
I did a, uh, a voicemail. It was my first voicemail piece actually. How did it go? It was, it was great. I think, I mean, I thought it went fine. I don't know, uh, the check cash, so that was good. Right. Hey, that's good. But no, I mean, I, I thought it went well. It was, it was different. Um, and, you know, we, we talked to, uh, to students about how that's one option and it's, Kind of boring in nature and kind of boring in practice, but you know, it's, it's a, it's a good thing to, uh, to have.
It's a, it's a good option to have. And, uh, it was, it was interesting. It was definitely interesting. It was, you know, the interesting part. So it was, it was a, a company of, um, a local company and they do like, um, you know, they clean up after, uh, you know, fires or, or water damage or, or, or things like that.
Right. Serious things that. That, that happened to people or companies. And so I started to read it and I read it in my normal, you know, announcer voice like, thank you for calling blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, yeah, no, no, no, we want it more like, remember people who are calling are like, you know, they just went through something pretty traumatic, like their house caught on fire.
Yeah. Or like, you know, they've flooded their basement flooded and they lost, you know, property and things like that. And, you know, you're the first voice they hear. You gotta be calming and empathetic. And I was like, Oh yeah, no, that's, that's a fair point. So totally changed the direction I was planning on going in and, uh, became more of a, thank you for calling and this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
We're here for you. I love you. Don't forget that. Um, and so that was exactly what he said. Exactly what I said. Yeah. Verbatim. Um, but ain't no, it was interesting. I'll tell you what my, my. My favorite part was, um, you get to the part where it's like, please press one and, and all the other options. And I think they only had like four options, but you know, to give them some, some extra in case they add employees or whatnot, we went through all the numbers.
So one through nine, we did zero, we did pound, we did star, but I was told, uh, uh, okay, so say, uh, please press one, uh, all the way through zero and then star and pound. But I want you to say it a few times and try to make them different each time. I'm like, okay, so it's like, please press one, please press one, please press.
One. Please press two. Please press two. I feel like a robot. Like, at some point you get to like six or seven and you're like, Oh my god, what is happening right now? Like, it's weird. It's, it was a, that was a weird, weird sensation, but, uh, No, uh, uh, Brett here at the studio did a nice job of putting it all together and turning it into a cohesive, uh, product that could actually be used.
Uh, and I, and I think they, uh, I think they enjoyed it, and, um, And are currently using it, so I think everybody, uh, I think it turned out pretty good for everybody. For me as the voice actor, for them as the client. Now, I don't know how the producer took it, because that was you. Uh, so probably, uh, probably a pretty, uh, uh, pretty miserable time for you.
Having to deal with, having to deal with the, the high maintenance, uh, talent that I am. That's right, I'm the talent, how dare you.
Bottles of water, uh, towelettes. We had to, we actually had to carry Josh into the vocal booth. Yeah. I had to get four of our staff members to be like, Hey, can you carry Josh in there?
He does not walk into the, it's a superstition. It makes him do better. I don't know what that is, but I will say my favorite moment though is when you were doing those numbers, which I could totally tell was maddening because I, I've never done that. I've never actually done a voicemail system that I can think of.
Uh, you, you got, it must've gotten so crazy for you in your mind that you've started counting incorrectly.
It becomes like, do you do like so many times you're like, what number was I on? Because it just becomes like this thing where you just start doing it and they're like. Uh, and like, yeah, go back and do three.
I already did three. No, you didn't. Oh, all right. I'm going to do that now. Then apparently it does because you're just like, you're like, this is, this is absurd. What am I doing? And you kind of lose, lose track of it. And then you finish up and you're like, Was that, was that, was that okay? Because I honestly have zero ideas.
Yeah, it's true. Zero ideas.
So when you're in the booth, is it hard to tell? Like, was that good? Was that not good?
What did the, uh, what's that feel like that part was? Um, you know, no, it, it wasn't too bad in general, uh, especially with the, you know, the constructive criticism as far as, you know, how to make the tone sound, what kind of they're looking for.
I thought that was extremely helpful. Um, And, you know, there was definitely feedback from, uh, not only from you and from, from Brett, who was editing, but also from the client themselves, which was also, uh, which was also very helpful. Um, the, the number part that was, that was different. That was weird. And, and I was not sure that I did that.
Okay. Until we were done. Um, and I was like, how was that? Cause I finished and it was like quiet. As you know, Brett was doing with his thing and you guys were like, yeah, it was fine. But I'm like, so do I have to do that again? Because I really don't want to.
You know, what I will say is that what we were listening for and probably what was happening that moment when you were waiting is very much Brett was just mixing it together.
He was cutting pieces down. He was doing the audio engineering part. And I was just checking in with the client to be like, Hey, what'd you think? Was it, were you happy? Really? As the producer in that situation, I didn't have to do too much because Brett is a super talented audio engineer who has done this.
plenty of time. So he was really taking the charge on like direction. And then my job as I saw it was to make sure that Carol Ann, who was our client in that situation was happy with the product. I was like, Hey, do you like what you're hearing? Do you like this? And then I jumped in maybe once or twice to be like, Hey, maybe try this Josh because I know you and I know your language.
So I could, I thought it was like, Oh, I think I can help him in this. moment because I know how he, how he works, but yeah, those numbers were fine. It's really, it was really just about clarity at that point. Those little moments were like, Hey, is this clear what you need to do? And that's what you're doing.
You're again, solving a problem, directing somebody and you're just telling them what to do next. Like just press this number.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah. It's, it's a super simple. No, it is. It definitely is It definitely
was. Yeah. And like I said, that's the first time I've, I've done a voicemail piece before and it was, uh, It was cool. It was cool. And it was, it was quick. 20 minutes, maybe. Yeah. If that. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, it's a quick process. Um, you know, just because there's only so much you can do. There's only so many ways I can say, press one.
And I tried, I would like to say most of them,
but this is also why the demos are so important too, because while, while you had a leg up in the fat insofar as that I knew you, I, Josh was not the only person I submitted. I actually have a number of demos that the client came to us, came to white Lake and was like, Hey, we need a voiceover job.
Um, And so I submitted all the demos. I'm like, Hey, these are people that I've worked with that. I know that I like, I like their sound. I think they actually fit the tone because I knew their company a little bit and they picked Josh. I did not pick Josh in this. So I, I washed my hands of this, but you, it wasn't my choice.
I didn't my decision. No, but I guess what I'm trying to say too, is that you had already done the work in advance so that they knew that you were the voice that they wanted. They're like, Josh has the voice that they want. to present when somebody calls in with a problem. They felt like your voice was the best fit for that job out of what I presented to them.
So again, we have that relationship, you, it's who you know, that's who I submitted, but then it came down to what Josh could do and then the unique qualities that he brought to the table. So, these are all the things Charisma, charm, baby bear, I don't know.
Stunning good looks. Giant beards. Giant beards.
Giant beards. Going gray. Oh, yes. Just Not to circle back, but, uh, but running with a beard, man, it gets warm. Does it? It gets warm up in there. I can't imagine. I'm not gonna lie to you. It gets warm up in there.
My facial hair grows very fast, but I can't stand when it gets like longer than, I don't know, the tiniest bit.
I have to shave it all the time. I hate how that feels.
I'm at about, I don't know... Five inches? Uh, well, from my chin, probably a good, like, two and a half. Like, it's, it's getting, I gotta, I gotta tame it down a little bit.
Two and a half of pure manliness.
A pure something. Pure something.
Pure bird's nest. I think running and voiceover very much go hand in hand.
That's actually why I read the book, uh, Murakami's book, because I think it also applies to any... creative endeavor. It really is. It like he just talks about Mirakami goes from being a huge smoker, having this really difficult lifestyle. He owned a restaurant or a coffee shop and he was basically a jazz club.
Yeah, it was like a jazz club. It did all these things and he would stay up till like four in the morning because he wouldn't get home till two in the morning or three in the morning and then he would write for an hour. And once he realized that he needed more time to write, he had to give up his jazz, jazz club lifestyle because he needed to be up in the morning to write and needed more time and he, like, he really goes through this whole transformation.
I think that's true of voiceover, of any creative endeavor. It is that, it is persistent action over time. It is that continual practice. I talked about this last week when it was just me flying solo, which was not nearly as good. It's all right. It was, it was a good experience for me. I was like, ah, this is, this is hard without Josh.
Josh carries this show. I just, I make comments here and there.
All I do is press buttons. Press buttons and pass hot air.
But it's super important and it's just like running where it's like you've just got to keep going forward. Even if you don't feel like you can or you don't know what to do. to do. If you just keep putting one foot in front of the other, you will keep making progress.
And it's that act of doing it that builds momentum and then creates more possibilities. You can run longer distances or you can do more work.
If you can't fly, run. If you can't run, walk. If you can't walk, crawl. But by all means, keep moving. Hmm. That's Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Was it? It is, yeah. That's great.
That's a good quote. I like that quote. That's a great quote. Yeah. I love that. I feel like it fits, but his version probably had a bit more gravitas to it, but that's okay. Yeah, absolutely. But, but yeah, I mean, and, and I tell this to students all the time, I'm a huge proponent of, of momentum. Just do something, anything, I don't care.
Momentum is super powerful. Yeah. Because it's bigger than you, and it's more powerful than you'll ever be. In a way, it's like you're building something that's more powerful than you, but then does the work for you, so it becomes easier.
It's like interest. It's like interest in a bank account, which right now is not that great, but that's okay.
But what is it? It's working for you. It's, it's, you know, you, you put the investment in of time and energy and, and it keeps things going, right? It's, uh, Newton's first law of motion. An object in motion tends to stay in motion. An object at rest tends to stay at rest. It's true. It's, uh, the first, it's his first law.
So getting over the beginning. Is the hardest part.
Oh yeah. Moving something from stillness to motion is the hardest part. And that would be Newton's third. Law of Motion. Inertia. Inertia. Ah, inertia is a property of matter. Science. Sell. Bill, bill, bill. Bill. Bill. Bill, bill. I love Bill N. He's great. I still love Bill Knight.
He's really funny. Oh, he's amazing. He's incredibly, he's a great storyteller.
He is. He is. And you know what, his, uh, his, they were on Netflix and I tried to get my son to watch him. Oh. But he's a little young for that. Um, but not, it saves the world show. Uh, no, no, no, no, his, uh, his originals, the stuff that we used to when, you know, when they'd roll in that, uh, that TV on a cart that, uh, those are great.
That had like the, uh, it was strapped down with like those big thick leather straps so that you couldn't take the TV off the cart. Those are great days. When they rolled that thing in there, you were like, I'm not working today. Outstanding. And we watched Bill Nye.
Epidermis, that's your skin? Uh, yes. That was the first time I ever heard anyone say that joke.
Excuse me, your epidermis is showing! I thought it was so funny as a kid and I still, still do. Still do. Well, Josh, I'm glad you're back. Oh, thank you. I'm so glad you had this experience, too, of running and this gig that you had recently. Oh, thank you. Super, super cool. See, there was no one better for the job.
You were the right person for that company.
Aw, thank you. You did a good job. You're welcome. And I was just telling to you, you know what I, what I just did? Uh. A couple days ago, what did I do? I sent up a thank you note. I sent up a handwritten thank you note on a postcard. Brilliant. Just to say, hey, it was a pleasure working with you.
Uh, I think we, we did some good work together. I appreciate the opportunity. And if you ever need anything in the future, don't hesitate to ask. That's brilliant. Boom.
Bam. Roasted. There he is. And then, you know, you're, yeah, you're setting yourself up for work in the future.
That's the idea. Super important.
That's the idea. Nice job. All right. So, um. In conclusion. In conclusion. Go run. Run. And just move.
Keep practicing. Keep going forward. Yes.
Being is not nearly as important as becoming. Hmm. Just let that one soak there. Being is not nearly as important as becoming. Hmm. I love that. None of us are where we want to be.
But all of us are working towards that. Yes. God, this show is heavy. Boom, man. Boom, man. All right. So, wow. So, uh, now that I just dropped that, uh, that mind bomb on you, uh, let's, uh, let's wrap this up for the day. Uh, Sam, as always, it was a pleasure. Glad to be back. Pleasure was mine. And, uh, yeah, thank you all for tuning in again.
You can always reach out to us for any reason you might think of, any topics you want to cover, any things you want to discuss, any... Comments, questions, concerns you might have, we're happy to discuss them for you because this is not just our show, Sam. Whose is it? It's their show as well. Yes, it is. So, until next week, for Sam, I'm Josh.
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And welcome into this edition of Voice Coach's Radio. I am Josh, he is Sam. We are delighted to have you joining us. Sam, how we doing my friend?
Josh, I'm doing so well because that intro that you just did. I've been missing it. Oh, I know, right? I tried to recreate it a couple times, and I really, like, even, I'm listening to you do it, and mine was a far cry from what you just did.
You know, stop.
It was like, and welcome into the voice coach's radio. That was my version.
No, it's good. I like that. I like that. Yeah, it's, uh, it's got that, uh, that, uh, game show host feel to it. And now. I try to go for the lounge lizard feel. Hey, welcome in. Let's turn the lights down a little bit. This little dude is going out to the lady in the back.
It's like Bill Murray in Saturday Night Live. Oh yeah. Yeah. Star Wars. Nothing but Star Wars.
I love that sketch. Uh, so uh, yeah. So I haven't been here in a while. I mean I've been here, but I haven't been on the, on the mode.
You've been busy. You've been on vacation. You've been running. You've been running a lot.
I have. Yeah. So I think I had a wedding that, that I was going to in New Jersey a few weeks ago. And then, uh, yeah. And then last week I had, uh, and I know we, we had talked about it. I had the, uh, the Peak to Brew. Peak to brew. And, uh, that was a a 227 mile relay race Who, uh, that took us 31 hours and 59 minutes.
Oh my God. Um, and it was a, I, first of all, I was terrified. , like, I was so nervous. Why were you nervous? Oh my God. I don't know. Like, just everything about it. Like the running part I was kind of nervous about. It was just everything just. being in a van for that long with people, including people I didn't know, um, it was, uh, I was, I was, I'm an anxious person by nature and, uh, that, that definitely, uh, set off my anxiety a little bit, but no, it was, it was a blast.
It was, we started, um, so it was last, uh, last Thursday, we drove up to Lake Placid and, um, stayed at a hotel in Lake Placid. And then Friday morning at 8 AM, we drove to the top of Whiteface mountain and it was so foggy. We couldn't see it. Damn thing. Uh, and that's, uh, so cool. And that's where the race started.
Started. We, we started at eight o'clock and um, that's where the first leg ran. I was like five of 12. And our first runner, uh, ran. And, uh, my legs were 5.2 miles, 2.3 miles, 6.1 miles and six miles. Wow. Um, and my third leg, my 6.1 mile leg, began at five o'clock in the morning. Woo. Yeah, it was early and raining, which I could have done without.
Um, but, uh, but no, it was, it was a blast. It really was. It was a ton of fun. The scenery out there, my goodness. I've never been out to like blasted or, or any of those areas. Um, uh, mirror Lake and Tupper Lake and, um, old Ford and all those areas. Like I I've never been to those areas. Oh, just gorgeous up there.
Um, and then just, you know, we got to see the sunrise that, uh, you know, Saturday morning and then we stayed at a B& B, uh, outside of Utica that night and, uh, you know, just, just really, really a lot of fun and, uh, super, super pretty. So I, I had a blast. I had an absolute blast. My legs are dead, but that's okay.
You know, since you've been telling me all about this, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna be like Josh. I went running this morning. I really did. No one should be like me. No, but I was just like, you, you, the other day you made a comment, you were like, Yeah, I just ran like seven miles, you know, no big deal.
I just run seven miles on average now. And I'm like, okay, I got you Josh. So I was like, I'm going to try to run again. And I did this morning. I mapped it out last night. I made a map. I figured out we're actually a house sitting right now for Jocelyn's sister. And we're, I mapped out this, uh, this route that'd probably take me about.
It was six and a half miles. That's more than I usually run. You know, a five run, a five run is a really good run for me. That's about as far as I typically go. I haven't run in, let's say, a couple weeks. Probably, probably a month, really, truthfully. So I went out this morning, I started it, and at about two miles in, I'm like, F this, I am out, no, I can't.
I can tell you exactly how you're feeling right now. You're feeling okay. And then tomorrow's gonna happen. Go back and run again. D O M S DOMS. Delayed onset muscle soreness. Oh, oh. You don't get sore right 18 to 24 hours later, you're like, Ooh, that's not fun. So you're like, you're telling me I'm gonna be in pain tomorrow.
That is what I'm telling you, yes. That is potentially by the end of today, but, uh, yeah, probably, probably tomorrow. Yeah. No, because I had to get back into, uh, to my marathon training cause I still have that coming up in October. Um, I have a half coming up next month. Oh my gosh. And, uh, so that one, you know, that one, I'm not too, too worried about the marathon.
That's a, it's a lot of, that's, that's many, many, many much miles. And I'm a little, uh, Concern.
Many miles moving. Yeah.
So, uh, so I, I did five yesterday. I did seven on Wednesday. I'm off today and tomorrow and then Sunday I'm scheduled to run 14.
Whoa, holy cow. I've never run 14 miles. That's amazing.
Me neither actually.
So we're going to see how that works out. Not, uh, not sure how that one's going to go. Do you listen to music when you run? I do usually. Yeah. Okay. I do. Um, I have, uh, uh, I have a new set of, of headphones there. I don't remember who makes them, but they're bone conductivity headphones and they don't go in your ear.
They go just outside your ear, uh, on the bone, like between, like outside your, your ear next to your jaw. And it actually transmits the, the audio, uh, through wavelengths through the bone rather than through the air in your ear. And what that means is it means that your ear is clear so you can hear things.
That's cool. So like if a car is coming, I'll be able to hear that. Or someone yells at me, like, Hey. Get out of the way, idiot. Yeah, something like that. Like, I'll be able to know. Or, like, are you dying? Like, yeah, I can answer that. Yes, I am. Because I can hear you. Uh, and then they're awesome. They're, they're really awesome.
Especially for, like, this past trip, because we ran most of the roads we ran on were, you know, regular open roads. Um. You know, and so you wanted to make sure you could hear the cars that were going to hit you. Um, I don't think anyone got hit. No one got hit. Uh, I did and I think I told you this. Yeah, there was a, a bear warning.
It's so crazy. Uh, yeah, we got a text message from HQ at one point, uh, that there was a bear that was spotted running across the road. Uh, and I was like, and literally it's like, yeah, it's like, uh, Hey, uh, there was bear spotted. Here's where it was spotted. So, you know, just be alert. And I'm like, be alert.
What do you expect me to do? Like, oh, there's a bear. Cool. Uh, I just peed myself. Like, I don't know what exactly I was supposed to be on alert for, like, I'd rather not see the bear. Right? We were talking about, uh, last year, and I didn't do it last year, but apparently there was a warning that someone spotted a mountain lion at one point, which I'm not sure is true because I don't think you'd actually spot a mountain lion.
I feel like the mountain lion would spot you. Yeah, absolutely. It would spot you. That looks like a delicious meal. And, and, and that would be how that would go. Like the text message would not be like, Hey, mountain lion was spotted. It would be, Hey, mountain lion ate a runner. So watch out for that. Um, but I mean, you know, what am I supposed to do when I see a bear?
Oh, I saw a bear. Okay.
Um, you know what you're doing? You see a bear, you run faster.
I'm going to keep just run. I'm not sure. 19 miles, man. I'm not sure I could have much faster in me.
Yeah, but if you, if you actually, you didn't see the bear, if you saw the bear, I bet you would be like double time. You'd be surprised.
The other thing that, uh, the text that came around was there was a loose dog that was on the course and actually chased a runner. And I'll tell you what, I'll take the bear. I'll take the bear. Yeah. Uh, cause the bear probably wants nothing to do with you. Bears probably like, Hey, unless they're really hungry.
Yeah, really hungry, maybe like sick or something like that, or if you're messing with their cubs, which I wouldn't recommend, but like, you know, the bear is probably like, Hey, I'm just trying to get across the literally, it was like bear cross the road and run up a tree. Like that's a very bare thing to do, but like the dogs like chased a runner.
And like, if I'm, I don't know, I want nothing with that. Like that dog's like, I'm going to eat you and bite you. Bear's like, I just want to cross the road. That's true. Maybe poop in the woods. I know. And if I know, if a bear does that, if bears do, and as a baby bear, I'm going to tell you, Yes, they do. That's the rumor.
That's what they do. That's the rumor. Um, so yeah, that would be that'd be too but actually interesting note We uh, we just got the results and we finished ninth out of 59 teams. That's crazy, which is which is congratulations. Thank you We're actually really impressed with that because we weren't really worried too too much about uh about our pace.
We just wanted to not die or get eaten. Uh, and we succeeded in all events. So no, it was blast. It was an absolute blast. Highly recommend running 230 miles.
So you were anxious when you started running to the anxiety, just like disappear.
Um, so he said, my first leg. When I got handed my first leg, I took off like a bat out of hell.
I just went hauling down the road and about three quarters of a mile in, I was like, well, that was dumb. Uh, but the thing is, I was so amped up. I was like, I need to calm myself down. Like, I was like, forget about slowing down. I just need to calm myself down, lower my heart rate a little bit, lower my blood pressure.
Breathing a little bit because I took off way too fast because you do get juiced up you get amped up Um, especially because every single person in this we are six people in each van and every person in my van was Way faster than me. Um, we had uh, a few guys that I worked out with at the gym, uh, one of them who is Our about a month or two ago ran a 50 mile ultra marathon and is training for a hundred mile marathon So he's clearly better than me.
Uh, there was a guy who ran the mile at Northeastern in college, uh, when I was there. So he's clearly faster than me. And then there were, were two girls who also both ran track, um, collegiately at, uh, at Plattsburgh. So they're both faster than me. And one of them literally were in the van and she had done it last year.
And it was Katie and she'd done it last year. And she was like, yeah, I really didn't train much this year. She's like, I just did like four miles this past week. And I only got like just under an eight minute pace. She's like, so this is gonna be slow. And I'm like, Oh, okay. I, you know, I, yeah, just under, that's so slow.
Like, I was like, that's your slow pace. Cool. That's awesome. I am the weakest link in this chain for sure. So, you know, you, you, you, you go out quick, but yeah. So, I mean, eventually, I mean, five miles has taken me what 40 and change minutes. And so after like 10 minutes, you calm down at some point. Um, but yeah, by that point, I was, you know.
But the other thing is, like, so when I ran my from the time I ran my first leg to the time I run my second leg, my second leg was only 2. 3 miles. It was like eight and a half hours between runs. So it's really weird because you have all this time in between. So like, yeah, I ran 19 and a half miles, but like it was split up over the time the course of 30 hours.
So it's a, it's a very weird sensation, but I did manage to sleep for 45 minutes. That was unfortunate.
But even when you're running though, I know for when I did my half marathon many, many years ago, I got like three hours of sleep the night before because we had to drive. There was always like, there's just, there's so many things.
It's really early in the morning. And then I w I was really tired until I started running and I'm like, Oh, I feel fine. You know what I mean? Like once you're actually in the work doesn't matter.
Especially like my last leg. My last leg was my fastest. Uh, the last six miles was the second to last leg. And, and.
That one. And, and I kind of went with the, you know, the, the premise of, oh, this is it, you know, don't just go, you're done after this. This is it. Uh, and so, you know, yeah, it kind of passes. Although there is, there, there does always come a point like halfway through the run where you're like, whoa, what did you do?
And then, then it, that kind of passes. So yeah, it comes and goes. It comes in waves. It comes in waves.
Do you have a last running question I got for you? Do you have. a mantra or like a song or like when you start feeling like, oh gosh, I can't do this anymore. I'm so tired. Uh, just like, do you have a, somebody start talking to yourself?
Do you like berate yourself? What do you do?
Keep swimming. Yes. Oh, I love it. No, you know what? I, I really don't. I have certain songs that, uh, that, that definitely jacked me up more than others. Uh, and I'm a big music guy. Um, so that's why I find music helps me run just because of, you know, uh, I love music.
Um, So so that that's definitely helpful. I really don't have a, you know, a mantra per se. Um, just go nice, you know, just go.
I know that's just go shut up and go. I know for me, once it starts getting hard, I used to just be like, I, I, I like to know in my mind about. about where I'm at. Like, I kind of be like, okay, I'm a quarter of the way through the run.
Okay. I'm halfway through the run. And if I'm halfway through, it's like only another half to go, only another half to go. And then I get to like the three quarter mark. I'm like, okay, only a quarter to go only a quarter. And I just keep repeating that over and over.
That's a dangerous game though. That's a dangerous game.
Cause you're like, Oh, I'm only a quarter of the way done. That's not good. That's not good. That's true. So it, I do hear what you're saying. And I definitely do that to an extent. Right. And I keep an eye on my, my watch. And again, the, the, the distances are you. Approximates. So like my 5. 2 mile was more like 5.
4. And then when you get to 5. 2 and you're not done, you're like, uh, Hey, what's supposed to be done now guys? I was told, I was told this is where I was going to finish. And this is where I'm not finishing. This baby bear is going to poop in the woods to protest. So, I mean, like it's, it's tough, man. It's tough about, um, you know, in, in that regard.
But, um, yeah, I guess I don't really have a mantra per se, but it's, uh, my mantra is pain is, is, is inevitable. Suffering is, I don't know, suffering is, is optional. That was in the book. That was, that was in, in, in the book. I literally read the introduction yesterday. The, uh, what I talked about,
Oh, cool. Oh. And speaking of voice.
Oh, that's what he talks about. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, great.
Oh, he says he has someone who has that. Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's true. I think that's a Buddhist premise, or um, I don't know, maybe it's just an old adage. But yeah, Josh is reading this book right now by Hiroki Murakami, who's a Japanese writer, and he has a book that, and I've read it many years ago, it's all on running, and he's a writer, and he basically talks about how he became a writer in the, through the lens of becoming a marathon, an ultra marathon, like long distance runner, and equates the two things.
And what's interesting is, as I was doing a little research on him, most of his writing is like, It's mostly fiction, and it's mostly like fantasy fiction. Yes, it's really Like, it's way out there.
I've read a couple of his books. They're really, it's like surreal. Yeah. It's magical realism, is how I would describe it.
It's like, the premise of That's how I'd describe you. That's why I like his book so much. Uh, the premises of all of his books start out basically with somebody Uh, A Wind Up Bird Chronicles. Here's a great example. I'll give you a concrete example. The book starts, a man is making pasta. It always starts with somebody making food, and his cat's missing, and then all of a sudden he, so he's spending his day, and he, then you learn that he's just been recently unemployed, and he's looking for his cat, but then his wife goes missing, and this is just the beginning, and he's just searching for his cat and his wife, and it takes him into like the underworld of Tokyo, there's this magical element that's very surreal, but it always starts very benign.
It's really, it's really great, it's a really, I'm not a big fantasy guy. I need to, I need to make pasta. I don't like, I'll say it. I'll say it on the podcast. I don't like Game of Thrones. I'm not a big Game of Throner. I know I've probably lost the only fans we had by saying that I like things based in realism that can then be magical.
And I think Murakami really walks that line incredibly well.
I mean, Game of Thrones could be real. There are dragons. You know, they exist. That's true. They exist. How dare you? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've never, I've never seen it like ever. I don't have HBO. Um, so I've never.
Never seen it. I've, I saw like one episode, so it's true.
It's premature of me to judge it, but that's what I do, I guess. Fair enough. But we also have some voiceover stuff to talk about. We do. Because somebody in the room did a voiceover job recently.
I did. Me, yeah. A couple weeks ago. It's not me, me, no. A couple weeks ago. Yeah. I did a uh, I did a, a voiceover piece.
I did a, uh, a voicemail. It was my first voicemail piece actually. How did it go? It was, it was great. I think, I mean, I thought it went fine. I don't know, uh, the check cash, so that was good. Right. Hey, that's good. But no, I mean, I, I thought it went well. It was, it was different. Um, and, you know, we, we talked to, uh, to students about how that's one option and it's, Kind of boring in nature and kind of boring in practice, but you know, it's, it's a, it's a good thing to, uh, to have.
It's a, it's a good option to have. And, uh, it was, it was interesting. It was definitely interesting. It was, you know, the interesting part. So it was, it was a, a company of, um, a local company and they do like, um, you know, they clean up after, uh, you know, fires or, or water damage or, or, or things like that.
Right. Serious things that. That, that happened to people or companies. And so I started to read it and I read it in my normal, you know, announcer voice like, thank you for calling blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, yeah, no, no, no, we want it more like, remember people who are calling are like, you know, they just went through something pretty traumatic, like their house caught on fire.
Yeah. Or like, you know, they've flooded their basement flooded and they lost, you know, property and things like that. And, you know, you're the first voice they hear. You gotta be calming and empathetic. And I was like, Oh yeah, no, that's, that's a fair point. So totally changed the direction I was planning on going in and, uh, became more of a, thank you for calling and this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
We're here for you. I love you. Don't forget that. Um, and so that was exactly what he said. Exactly what I said. Yeah. Verbatim. Um, but ain't no, it was interesting. I'll tell you what my, my. My favorite part was, um, you get to the part where it's like, please press one and, and all the other options. And I think they only had like four options, but you know, to give them some, some extra in case they add employees or whatnot, we went through all the numbers.
So one through nine, we did zero, we did pound, we did star, but I was told, uh, uh, okay, so say, uh, please press one, uh, all the way through zero and then star and pound. But I want you to say it a few times and try to make them different each time. I'm like, okay, so it's like, please press one, please press one, please press.
One. Please press two. Please press two. I feel like a robot. Like, at some point you get to like six or seven and you're like, Oh my god, what is happening right now? Like, it's weird. It's, it was a, that was a weird, weird sensation, but, uh, No, uh, uh, Brett here at the studio did a nice job of putting it all together and turning it into a cohesive, uh, product that could actually be used.
Uh, and I, and I think they, uh, I think they enjoyed it, and, um, And are currently using it, so I think everybody, uh, I think it turned out pretty good for everybody. For me as the voice actor, for them as the client. Now, I don't know how the producer took it, because that was you. Uh, so probably, uh, probably a pretty, uh, uh, pretty miserable time for you.
Having to deal with, having to deal with the, the high maintenance, uh, talent that I am. That's right, I'm the talent, how dare you.
Bottles of water, uh, towelettes. We had to, we actually had to carry Josh into the vocal booth. Yeah. I had to get four of our staff members to be like, Hey, can you carry Josh in there?
He does not walk into the, it's a superstition. It makes him do better. I don't know what that is, but I will say my favorite moment though is when you were doing those numbers, which I could totally tell was maddening because I, I've never done that. I've never actually done a voicemail system that I can think of.
Uh, you, you got, it must've gotten so crazy for you in your mind that you've started counting incorrectly.
It becomes like, do you do like so many times you're like, what number was I on? Because it just becomes like this thing where you just start doing it and they're like. Uh, and like, yeah, go back and do three.
I already did three. No, you didn't. Oh, all right. I'm going to do that now. Then apparently it does because you're just like, you're like, this is, this is absurd. What am I doing? And you kind of lose, lose track of it. And then you finish up and you're like, Was that, was that, was that okay? Because I honestly have zero ideas.
Yeah, it's true. Zero ideas.
So when you're in the booth, is it hard to tell? Like, was that good? Was that not good?
What did the, uh, what's that feel like that part was? Um, you know, no, it, it wasn't too bad in general, uh, especially with the, you know, the constructive criticism as far as, you know, how to make the tone sound, what kind of they're looking for.
I thought that was extremely helpful. Um, And, you know, there was definitely feedback from, uh, not only from you and from, from Brett, who was editing, but also from the client themselves, which was also, uh, which was also very helpful. Um, the, the number part that was, that was different. That was weird. And, and I was not sure that I did that.
Okay. Until we were done. Um, and I was like, how was that? Cause I finished and it was like quiet. As you know, Brett was doing with his thing and you guys were like, yeah, it was fine. But I'm like, so do I have to do that again? Because I really don't want to.
You know, what I will say is that what we were listening for and probably what was happening that moment when you were waiting is very much Brett was just mixing it together.
He was cutting pieces down. He was doing the audio engineering part. And I was just checking in with the client to be like, Hey, what'd you think? Was it, were you happy? Really? As the producer in that situation, I didn't have to do too much because Brett is a super talented audio engineer who has done this.
plenty of time. So he was really taking the charge on like direction. And then my job as I saw it was to make sure that Carol Ann, who was our client in that situation was happy with the product. I was like, Hey, do you like what you're hearing? Do you like this? And then I jumped in maybe once or twice to be like, Hey, maybe try this Josh because I know you and I know your language.
So I could, I thought it was like, Oh, I think I can help him in this. moment because I know how he, how he works, but yeah, those numbers were fine. It's really, it was really just about clarity at that point. Those little moments were like, Hey, is this clear what you need to do? And that's what you're doing.
You're again, solving a problem, directing somebody and you're just telling them what to do next. Like just press this number.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah. It's, it's a super simple. No, it is. It definitely is It definitely
was. Yeah. And like I said, that's the first time I've, I've done a voicemail piece before and it was, uh, It was cool. It was cool. And it was, it was quick. 20 minutes, maybe. Yeah. If that. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, it's a quick process. Um, you know, just because there's only so much you can do. There's only so many ways I can say, press one.
And I tried, I would like to say most of them,
but this is also why the demos are so important too, because while, while you had a leg up in the fat insofar as that I knew you, I, Josh was not the only person I submitted. I actually have a number of demos that the client came to us, came to white Lake and was like, Hey, we need a voiceover job.
Um, And so I submitted all the demos. I'm like, Hey, these are people that I've worked with that. I know that I like, I like their sound. I think they actually fit the tone because I knew their company a little bit and they picked Josh. I did not pick Josh in this. So I, I washed my hands of this, but you, it wasn't my choice.
I didn't my decision. No, but I guess what I'm trying to say too, is that you had already done the work in advance so that they knew that you were the voice that they wanted. They're like, Josh has the voice that they want. to present when somebody calls in with a problem. They felt like your voice was the best fit for that job out of what I presented to them.
So again, we have that relationship, you, it's who you know, that's who I submitted, but then it came down to what Josh could do and then the unique qualities that he brought to the table. So, these are all the things Charisma, charm, baby bear, I don't know.
Stunning good looks. Giant beards. Giant beards.
Giant beards. Going gray. Oh, yes. Just Not to circle back, but, uh, but running with a beard, man, it gets warm. Does it? It gets warm up in there. I can't imagine. I'm not gonna lie to you. It gets warm up in there.
My facial hair grows very fast, but I can't stand when it gets like longer than, I don't know, the tiniest bit.
I have to shave it all the time. I hate how that feels.
I'm at about, I don't know... Five inches? Uh, well, from my chin, probably a good, like, two and a half. Like, it's, it's getting, I gotta, I gotta tame it down a little bit.
Two and a half of pure manliness.
A pure something. Pure something.
Pure bird's nest. I think running and voiceover very much go hand in hand.
That's actually why I read the book, uh, Murakami's book, because I think it also applies to any... creative endeavor. It really is. It like he just talks about Mirakami goes from being a huge smoker, having this really difficult lifestyle. He owned a restaurant or a coffee shop and he was basically a jazz club.
Yeah, it was like a jazz club. It did all these things and he would stay up till like four in the morning because he wouldn't get home till two in the morning or three in the morning and then he would write for an hour. And once he realized that he needed more time to write, he had to give up his jazz, jazz club lifestyle because he needed to be up in the morning to write and needed more time and he, like, he really goes through this whole transformation.
I think that's true of voiceover, of any creative endeavor. It is that, it is persistent action over time. It is that continual practice. I talked about this last week when it was just me flying solo, which was not nearly as good. It's all right. It was, it was a good experience for me. I was like, ah, this is, this is hard without Josh.
Josh carries this show. I just, I make comments here and there.
All I do is press buttons. Press buttons and pass hot air.
But it's super important and it's just like running where it's like you've just got to keep going forward. Even if you don't feel like you can or you don't know what to do. to do. If you just keep putting one foot in front of the other, you will keep making progress.
And it's that act of doing it that builds momentum and then creates more possibilities. You can run longer distances or you can do more work.
If you can't fly, run. If you can't run, walk. If you can't walk, crawl. But by all means, keep moving. Hmm. That's Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Was it? It is, yeah. That's great.
That's a good quote. I like that quote. That's a great quote. Yeah. I love that. I feel like it fits, but his version probably had a bit more gravitas to it, but that's okay. Yeah, absolutely. But, but yeah, I mean, and, and I tell this to students all the time, I'm a huge proponent of, of momentum. Just do something, anything, I don't care.
Momentum is super powerful. Yeah. Because it's bigger than you, and it's more powerful than you'll ever be. In a way, it's like you're building something that's more powerful than you, but then does the work for you, so it becomes easier.
It's like interest. It's like interest in a bank account, which right now is not that great, but that's okay.
But what is it? It's working for you. It's, it's, you know, you, you put the investment in of time and energy and, and it keeps things going, right? It's, uh, Newton's first law of motion. An object in motion tends to stay in motion. An object at rest tends to stay at rest. It's true. It's, uh, the first, it's his first law.
So getting over the beginning. Is the hardest part.
Oh yeah. Moving something from stillness to motion is the hardest part. And that would be Newton's third. Law of Motion. Inertia. Inertia. Ah, inertia is a property of matter. Science. Sell. Bill, bill, bill. Bill. Bill. Bill, bill. I love Bill N. He's great. I still love Bill Knight.
He's really funny. Oh, he's amazing. He's incredibly, he's a great storyteller.
He is. He is. And you know what, his, uh, his, they were on Netflix and I tried to get my son to watch him. Oh. But he's a little young for that. Um, but not, it saves the world show. Uh, no, no, no, no, his, uh, his originals, the stuff that we used to when, you know, when they'd roll in that, uh, that TV on a cart that, uh, those are great.
That had like the, uh, it was strapped down with like those big thick leather straps so that you couldn't take the TV off the cart. Those are great days. When they rolled that thing in there, you were like, I'm not working today. Outstanding. And we watched Bill Nye.
Epidermis, that's your skin? Uh, yes. That was the first time I ever heard anyone say that joke.
Excuse me, your epidermis is showing! I thought it was so funny as a kid and I still, still do. Still do. Well, Josh, I'm glad you're back. Oh, thank you. I'm so glad you had this experience, too, of running and this gig that you had recently. Oh, thank you. Super, super cool. See, there was no one better for the job.
You were the right person for that company.
Aw, thank you. You did a good job. You're welcome. And I was just telling to you, you know what I, what I just did? Uh. A couple days ago, what did I do? I sent up a thank you note. I sent up a handwritten thank you note on a postcard. Brilliant. Just to say, hey, it was a pleasure working with you.
Uh, I think we, we did some good work together. I appreciate the opportunity. And if you ever need anything in the future, don't hesitate to ask. That's brilliant. Boom.
Bam. Roasted. There he is. And then, you know, you're, yeah, you're setting yourself up for work in the future.
That's the idea. Super important.
That's the idea. Nice job. All right. So, um. In conclusion. In conclusion. Go run. Run. And just move.
Keep practicing. Keep going forward. Yes.
Being is not nearly as important as becoming. Hmm. Just let that one soak there. Being is not nearly as important as becoming. Hmm. I love that. None of us are where we want to be.
But all of us are working towards that. Yes. God, this show is heavy. Boom, man. Boom, man. All right. So, wow. So, uh, now that I just dropped that, uh, that mind bomb on you, uh, let's, uh, let's wrap this up for the day. Uh, Sam, as always, it was a pleasure. Glad to be back. Pleasure was mine. And, uh, yeah, thank you all for tuning in again.
You can always reach out to us for any reason you might think of, any topics you want to cover, any things you want to discuss, any... Comments, questions, concerns you might have, we're happy to discuss them for you because this is not just our show, Sam. Whose is it? It's their show as well. Yes, it is. So, until next week, for Sam, I'm Josh.
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Voice Coaches producers Josh and Sam discuss running and physical activity in a review of Josh’s latest athletic escapade.
