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Voice Coaches Radio #429 – Summer Ramble – Exercise, Superheroes, and Movies that Make us Cry
Voice Coach's Radio. Everything voiceover. And welcome to this week's edition of Voice Coach's Radio. Oh, that was bad. Sorry, I'm getting over a sinus infection. That didn't, uh, that was not my best tone. I'm a little congested in there, so I apologize for that. But, uh, this is Voice Coach's Radio. However, it sounds and I am Josh.
He is Sam. We are D lighted to have you Sam. How we doing? I'm doing great, but Josh I didn't even notice anything wrong with that intro. I thought it was fine Oh, no, I mean not up to my standard if we I will seriously clearly my standards are far lower than yours. So it yeah So big big news big news coaches radio world.
We have a mascot We have a mascot. We have a mascot. I had to figure out, I was like, what are you talking about? We have a mascot. Yes, we do, but we do. Stick taps to, uh, to Bill Melke. One of our, uh, one of our listeners actually just did his demo this past week. And, um, well. If you're listening to this currently, it was probably about a month ago, but still just recently did his demo and, uh, and, um, the next day comes by to drop off a thank you note, which is, by the way, a great idea.
Um, not, I mean, not that you need to thank me. I don't care, but just a good habit to get into. Um, and we've talked about that, I believe, but he also dropped off a small, uh, baby. Bear that he gave to me. And, and, and here's the funny part about it. Not only is it a baby bear, it's a, it's a baby's toy. A bear for a baby.
Like, it has a rattle in it. Yep. And, uh, This is the perfect gift for Josh. There's like a rattle in there. Anytime I come into his studio, what is he doing? He's just, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it. Usually I just use keys, my keys, just to keep me entertained. You know, that's usually what it doesn't take much.
It doesn't take much, but now I have a bear to do it. And he is super soft and fluffy. Baby bear lives. Like baby bear, you know, I was, I think the last episode you were like, you know, Sam, you tease me too much. So I've been like, you know what? I'm clearly going too far with Josh. I got it. Tone it down, take a step back from that.
And then someone brings in a bear and I'm like, Well, I got, I gotta lean into that, cause that's hysterical. Well, it's funny because I saw it and I didn't, I didn't see Bill when he dropped it off, but it was given to me and I was like, Did someone get a toy for my kid? Like, my son's three years old, like, this Bear with the rattle is nice, but probably, uh, you know, a little bit, uh, is a little bit old for that.
And then I was like, no, it's not for your son. It's for you. I was like, awesome. Awesome. Yeah. When I, I wasn't there when it came in, but one of our other coworkers was, and he's like, yeah, Josh has got this present and it's like a stuffed animal. And I don't understand it. I'm like, oh. Oh, I get it. I get it.
Also, also, by the way, every single time Bill has come in for his class, he came in to do all his classes in studio, every time he has come in, he has brought things, most of them, except for this most recent bear, uh, have been food and, uh, very good food. Cannot recommend that enough. Um, so those of you who are doing your demo or coming into our studio, bring us things.
Are you, are you actually storing our audience? Are you trying to get our audience to feed you? Yeah, preferably. Preferably. That'd be great. Oh, I just wanted to clarify. That's cool. Great. Yeah. And it's, and it's funny. What food would you prefer, Josh? You know what, I do, I do, I do have a sweet tooth, but I'm trying to, trying not to.
Trying to, that's the thing, like, Bill has brought in, like, delicious snacks. Like, he brought in, like, a massive thing of M& Ms, and I did have a few. Yeah, they were tasty. They were, they were delightful. But here's the thing, he was, when he came in, he was like, Ah, so I, I trust my, uh, my, my food's been, uh, been well received.
I was like, man, that, that table in our break room is a black hole. Like, you put food in there, it is gone. It doesn't last long, it's true. Oh my god, we are animals here. Yeah, well. Like, it is crazy. Just cra and there's not that many people. We don't, we don't have a big staff here. It is crazy. Um, I do have an update, by the way.
Oh yeah, what's up? And, uh, not that anyone's been asking for it, but I'm gonna give it anyways. No, I'd love to. I'd love to hear it. Last Saturday, so, what's today? Doesn't really matter. But last Saturday, I was, uh, supposed to I have my 10k. Remember I'm doing my 5k, 10k, 15k. I was supposed to have my 10k. Uh, it was scheduled for last Saturday.
Uh, I, I woke up Saturday morning and uh, my eye, my right eye. Could not open because it was gooped shut with nastiness. That's not a medical term. I don't know what it actually is. It's grossness. And, uh, and so I had to go to the doctor and, like I said, I had a sinus infection that was becoming an eye infection and, uh, and clearly did not run the 10K that day.
But, but, and this is the moral to this story. I have signed up for another 10K in a couple weeks, and I will let everybody know how that one goes. Because we all run into issues, we all run into problems, whether your goal is to run a 10K, or whether your goal is to become a voice actor, things are gonna happen.
What do we gotta do? Roll the punches. And that's what I did. Oh, I love it. So what you're saying is that you had a plan and your plan failed or your plan did not happen as you anticipated or planned for lack of a better word. And now to Recuperate your plan. You have put in place another plan. This is correct.
Am I am I understand the story? Yeah. And, um, and yeah, and it and you know what, assuming everything goes off without a hitch there, it, uh, you know, it'll be a seamless transition. Seamless transition. What do we do? And here's the thing. We couldn't do the race on Saturday, obviously. Um, and that Sunday I was still pretty deep.
It was still pretty under the weather Sunday, Monday, uh, I researched, uh, another 10k that was going to happen before the 15 and, um, we signed up that, uh, two days later. That's great. So it was all right. There's an issue. It's a, it's a problem, but if we're not going to let it ruin everything, we're going to roll with it.
We're going to figure it out and we're going to do that. And yes, that, that applies to, you know, what happened this past week. But again, that, that I, I think is, is something, you know, we all set goals, we all have plans and, uh, Uh, the best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry, as they say, and, uh, and, and this one did.
That's okay. Once famously said. But I, I love that because I, for me personally, what I like to do to that and kind of to reflect that back to you as well, Josh, I am somebody who likes to try to continually work on projects and problems and things or whatever I'm working on. Like I like to put a little bit of energy towards it.
all the time. And the reason I like to do that is because I know things are going to happen that are actually going to get in the way of me executing on whatever I'm working on, whether it's running. So the fact that you had this plan, you had the deadline, you had the date, something comes up and it's like, ah, it's not going to happen.
You still put all this energy, preparation, work, anticipation, there's all of this momentum so that when it doesn't manifest the way you expect. You can still then pick it back up and you, nothing's lost. Nothing's lost at all. You're still on course. Maybe it's not the same day, but the day was arbitrary, but having the day was super important.
If you didn't have that day, you wouldn't have done any of this. And remember. Success is a pile of failure. You're just standing on top of it, and not underneath it. Success is a pile of failure? I don't wait, so It's a quote, it's a quote, I'm reading a quote. Oh, is it? Who's it by? I don't know. Uh, Dave Ramsey.
Dave Ramsey? I don't know Uh, isn't that like the Extreme Money Makeover guy? Could be. Is that Dave Ramsey? Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I think that's who that is. Success is a pile of failure. You're just standing on top of it, And not underneath it. Hmm, I, I see it. Okay, okay. So that failure can bury you, or that failure can build you up, so that you can stand on top of that failure, learn from it, grow from it, and become the success that you know that you can be.
This is, yeah, totally. It's very, very motivational. Woo! Wow! Just got heavy today. Thank you, Dave. Yeah, I think, um, wow. Wow. Reminds me, this morning we were talking about they're making a new version of The Lion King. Did you hear about this? I did hear about that, yes. Um, a new version of The Lion King, and we were quoting it.
Live action version. A live action with us. So many great people. John Oliver's gonna be in it. John Oliver is, he is Zazu. He's Zazu, and uh, Keegan's gonna be in it. Um, Who is Keegan Michael Keegan then? I think he's one of the, I think he's one of the Jackals. Or um, not Jackals, what are they? They're um, Hyenas.
Hyenas, yes. One of the hyenas, I think so. He was one of the names, I was like, I don't know this character. No, Beyonce is, uh, is not a, Yes. Yeah's super cool. But isn't, isn't Mufasa still James Earl Jones? James Earl Jones is coming back. Has to be. Who could play that part? Has to be, you know, only James Earl Jones.
And, uh, uh, uh, Donald Glover is, uh, is Simba? Yes. Yeah. Super cool. Yep. Yeah. Um, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his, uh, what's his rapper's name? Um, childish Gambino. Childish Gambino. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's super cool. So, but like, there's that thing with Rafiki with the, when Rafiki and. Simba, and he hits him in the head, and he's like, Ow, that hurts!
Uh, yes, that's in the past, doesn't matter. The past can still hurt. So, what I'm hearing in your story of Correction, I know your father. Sorry, that's one of my favorite parts. No, that's very good. I know your father, you mean you knew my father. Correction, I know your father. That was, that's spot on. I feel like I'm watching the movie.
That was very, that was very good. Uh, I don't even know what I was saying. But basically the fact that, like, the failure can be in your past and it does not matter. It does not matter. We can still move past it. Especially if we build a practice. Like, building a practice is super important in anything that we do.
Any endeavor. Keep doing it. Keep practicing. Like, you, you Josh, you do CrossFit, right? And I'm sure part of the, the virtue is not just, like, lifting heavy weights. It's lifting heavy weights. It's five times a week, right? Like it's like doing it or four times a week, however many times you make it to the gym to do it.
But it's that continual repetition over time. Yes. That's not a great, I mean, we don't always live ways, but, but yes, it is the, it is the act of it, you know, it's, it's fitness, right? It's it's, it's the act of working out or whatever it might be. Yeah. Right. Multiple, you know, on, on, on schedule. And then that's the thing, right?
You know, so for working out, yeah, I try to do it five times a week if I can for, for voice acting. A couple hours a week. It's probably all you need to do. Yeah. That's usually what I tell people, right? I mean i've had people be like, oh my god, i'm gonna do every every night I'm gonna spend a couple hours working on this stuff.
Wow, you're gonna burn yourself out so fast Yeah. So fast. So, you know, you know, you can, you can pace yourself. You should pace yourself as long as you have a plan. You know, I do one thing voice acting wise every single day and partially because I'm forced to do it, but it was something I did used to do all the time.
And that is read out loud. And yes, you're probably wondering, why am I being forced? Who is forcing Sam to read out loud? Please help me, I'm being forced to read out loud. My girlfriend insists that I do it every night before we go to bed. So like, for like five minutes, ten minutes, I have to read out loud.
Just like my three year old son does. Exactly. And honestly, it's wonderful. Are you reading the same things that we're reading? Yes, I am reading, um, Are you big into Little Blue Truck? Yes, exactly. Yeah, um, uh, Are you my mother? That's a good one. We've gone through it at least. seven times. It's such a lovely story.
What do we have? I'm trying to remember what books we have now. We're big into, uh, Piggy and Elephant right now. I don't know if you're into the Piggy and Elephant, but I don't really know Piggy and Elephant. No, that's all right. Uh, it's by a guy named Mo Willems. In fact, there was a Piggy and Elephant exhibit at a, an art museum in Kufrstown, New York, and we went a couple weeks ago, and, uh, there was a reading, and you get to make puppets, and they were all, like, original sketches, and it was, uh, it was cooler than I'd care to admit.
That's, uh, that sounds very cool. And we went for my son, or for me. But mostly for me. Well, you are the one who has the, the rattler in the room. So it doesn't matter. It's all fine. Fact. But reading out loud is super important. And like, it actually, it's, I know I'm making a joke about it here, but it's super helpful for me to continually pick up something, even though I've been doing this for 10 years, to keep doing it.
Because that is the most critical muscle. It's the base level. It's the basic thing that you have to do. And the more I work with words, the more I read the words out loud, the more I hear how they should be said. It comes back to that. Yeah. And I, you know, I tell people all the time in, in, in their classes, you know, Some people who struggle with accuracy, with accuracy when they're reading out loud, some people who struggle with that are people who are avid readers.
I mean, avid readers. Oh, sure, sure. But they don't read out loud. As we get older, we don't read out loud as much as we used to. I mean, again, yeah, I read the same five books every night. Now, what you're doing is obviously different, but most people, as you get older, I mean, you may read a lot. I read a ton, but I don't read out loud that much.
And reading out loud is, is, is different than reading to yourself. Granted, you're still doing the same, you know, machinations, but you know, it's a different sound. It's a different feel. It's a different speed. It's a different muscle. It's a different tool. It's a different tempo. It is. And it's a different skill set.
And you need to work on that skill set. And so those people who are avid readers and are struggling with their accuracy, it drives them crazy because they're like, I know I'm a good reader. I read all the time. And I'm like. It's just not, I'm not saying you can't read, I'm saying you're struggling reading out loud.
Big, big, big, big, big, big difference. Yeah, yeah. And that's why it is something you have to work on. And you know, one of the best things to do is not just to read out loud, read out loud things that you're not familiar with, right? Like, so like what I do, not as helpful, but read out because we do a lot of cold reading.
But I would still say too that even what you're doing is still better than not reading out loud at all. Sure, absolutely. It is really that practice of just like, it's storytelling, right? It is storytelling, but using somebody else's words, even if it's a story you've read a number of times, you're still, you're still doing it in real time.
You're still finessing it. You're still bringing it to life. You're still working on your rhythm and pace and all of those other elements come into play, even if you're a little more familiar with it. So I don't think that's nearly as bad. Like it's still better than not doing it. And for sure. Yeah. How many, like how many minutes do you think you do that at night, Josh?
Oh, I'm saying that's like all I do as well, and that's enough. I think that is enough base level, something you can do every day as a voice actor. So do you read Jocelyn stories? Like what do you read? No, it's uh, it's right now it's devil in the white city. It's whatever novel I'm reading and she'll pass out probably within like five minutes of it.
I was going to say, because like, I'm, I'm pretty sure you, that's not the only. time you're reading that book. No, I read it other times. So she always falls asleep. Okay. I was going to say, you're just like jumping in and out of it. And that's a complicated book. It really is. I listened to the audio book version of that on, uh, on a drive to and from Pittsburgh.
And it was perfect for that because I could just you know, inhale it all at one time. I will. I'll read it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're making a movie of that. Are they? Yeah. Oh yeah. That'd be fun. They are making a movie. Oh, he takes home. So he's crazy. It's so fascinating. But for like for her, which she finds it, she's like, I find it very soothing.
It helps her fall asleep. So we'll like, I do that. I'll read until she falls asleep and then I'll keep reading and then I'll, I'll start reading silently. But usually I read for about 10 minutes out loud and then I read to myself and that practice, it's, it really is so helpful for me. Every time I do it, I'm like, Oh my gosh.
I'm learning more, every single time. It really helps. Longevity, reading cold, emphasis, everything is super important. The next thing that I would add for like anyone who wants to develop a practice as a voice actor, ask yourself, what are you doing when you're telling a story? What is the point of these words?
Now that sounds like a big question, but I think it be, it can become a little bit more second nature. And like for me, and we've talked about this many times before, everything I'm doing as a voice actor. And. Every time the element that is always apparent is that I'm an everyday superhero. That's it. I am saving the day.
I am me I am sam. These are my words and i'm telling this story for some explicit reason my superhero And I am josh's superhero, which goes without saying, but yeah Did you ever know that you're josh's hero? I don't know. I was trying to remember the next line. You're everything I wish I could be. I wish I could be.
I can fly higher than an eagle. Oh, thank you. This is great. I feel like I'm doing karaoke now. Cause you are the wind beneath my wings. Where the hell is my lighter? Cause you are the wind beneath my wings. That's good. That's really good. Is that Bette Midler? I think it's Bette Midler. Yes. Yes it is.
Beaches. Beaches. Yep. I remember that movie. As a kid I was never allowed to watch it, but my mom and my sister loved it so they'd always be like crying in the room and apparently it was inappropriate for me when I'm like five or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. So they'd kick me out but I'd be like, why are they crying?
Why is everyone crying? I can't say, I have not seen that movie. I have not seen that movie. I've still never been allowed to see it, so I have never seen it. I'm pretty sure at this point you could, uh, you could see it if you wanted. I don't know if you may not want to anymore, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't.
You're gonna go home, your mom's gonna call you and be like, Uh, no Sam, no, you're not ready. I am an adult, I can make decisions for myself, but most decisions I defer to Josh on and let him decide for me. We'll steal Magnolias. Oh! Have I? Oh, well, that'll get you going. Parts of that movie. I don't know. My wife loves Steel Magnolias.
Well, and it's on TV a lot. Constant. Um, and so I've seen, I don't know if I've ever seen the whole thing all the way through, but I've seen every part of it at one time or another. And it is on the one hand. Yes, it is. It is sad. On the other hand, it is hilarious because those Southern women are. Hysterical.
Hysterical. Uh, so. Anyway. Anyway. Uh, any other tearjerkers? Um. Uh, fried green tomatoes? I don't know. I'm trying to think of what else. Never seen that one. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever seen it either, but I remember my sister and my mom loved it as well. I'm trying to think of what else. Yeah. Tearjerkers.
Hmm. I don't know. I don't know. I only cry at movies, I'm going to be honest with you. Really? Yeah, I don't. Hmm. I do. Depends on the movie. Of course you do. Depends on, yeah, well, I'm sensitive. What can I say? Yeah, I've always thought that. Yeah. No, I, I, uh, I'm not really a big movie crier. Really? Yeah. My wife will.
Oh, so we were watching The Land Before Time. Uh, this was like a year ago and you've seen The Land Before Time. Great movie. Great movie. Well, uh, spoiler alert in the beginning, Littlefoot's mom dies. And it is crushing and, uh, and he's like, yo, yeah, like she, she, you know, she dies and he, you know, doesn't really know, you know, he's a little baby brontosaurus or brachiosaurus.
I'm not sure. Um, but, and, and, and, and my son, oh my God, my wife is already borderline crying at this point. And as he's walking away, my son goes, where's his mommy? Where's his mommy? Oh no. And my wife just lost it. I mean just lost it. And I was like, wow, buddy, that was cold. That was cold. Where's his mommy?
Blah! Tears. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Rough. Rough. Yeah, I'm trying to think the last you know I can remember the first movie I ever cried in and it was Schindler's List at the ending of that movie when they actually show Like all the real people I was I that was the first time I ever cried in a movie that has probably like 16 When I saw that it was I cried during um, ever seen life is beautiful.
Oh, yeah, that's a great movie Oh, I love that one got me. I've seen that a couple times. I saw it in Uh, the, the Italian. And it was, and that, yeah. Oof. Yeah. Oof. Did you ever, for me, a movie that still kind of gets me every year that I watch, that I love, I'd put it up there, probably my top five favorite movies of all time, It's a Wonderful Life, like, the older I get, the more I'm like, I love this movie.
I've never seen it. Oh, really? I've never seen it. Yeah, it's, it's beautiful, and it's, it's one of those, one of those films. Every time a bell rings An angel gets his way Yeah, I mean, I'm familiar with the movie, but I have never, I've never seen it. Jimmy Stewart, man, he's great. It's, it's great. It's cheesy, you know, it's dated, it's from a different, a very specific time and place, but it is, it's, it's about family, you know, it's about being And you know what, that's, those are the movies that, that, that get me like, um, like the end of, uh Feel the dreams.
Oh, yeah. Catch with his dad. I don't cry, but I'm like, that's beautiful. That's I mean, that's that hits me right there, especially now as a dad. I'm like, whoo. It's a little, uh, get allergies. I think is that what's happening here? Allergies. Yeah. It's Paul. It's the Paul and it's the Paul and definitely hit me right now.
Yeah. Did you ever see the movie? Never let me go. It's a book. Uh, yeah, it's honestly, I watched it again recently when I first saw it. I loved it. That movie totally kill like slayed me. You know, I was a little bit younger and it's It's, it's, it's this like, uh, semi utopian esque world, uh, where there's these, one class of people that are like, essentially donors for another class of people, and they're like harvested.
Yeah, it's really, it's really bleak. Wow. And then the ending of the movie is exactly as awful as you would Did you say utopian? I think you mean dystopian. Dystopian, yeah, yeah. Well, for some people it's utopian. I mean, yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Hmm, hmm. This sounds like, this is a utopia, this is a paradise, I think.
I will take your kidney, that's right. Thank you very much. Uh, yeah, it's pretty, uh, it's pretty brutal. But then, uh, we watched it recently, Jocelyn and I. I was like, oh, you should see this, this is good. No, it doesn't hold up, so. But that's a movie that I did cry in the first time I saw. That's my connection there.
Oh, what else? Woo! It's gone off the rails a little bit. Yeah, really, really. We're all over the rails a little bit here. Read out loud. Read out loud. Read out loud. Make a plan. Go for a run. Yeah. Well, no, but here's something that I can tie it all together with. Oh, please do. Let me tie this with a nice bow.
You know, talking about like crying, right? One thing that I tell people all the time, when you are voice acting. Pick somebody that you know and care deeply about, that you just love being around, one of your best friends or whomever, and talk to them. That's it. If you do nothing else when you're reading out loud, talking to somebody specifically that you know will make the words so much more meaningful and compelling, and it'll give us that conversational tone.
That's it. Well, yeah, and we've talked about it. Try to Try to pick someone not only that you know, but, but that might actually benefit from that, right? We talk about you, you know, you say you're an everyday superhero, you're solving problems, right? Uh, I was doing a piece with someone and I, and I think I stole this directly from you, but I was doing a piece with someone and um, it was, I believe it was Arnett Financial.
Oh yeah, and you know, it's about, uh, Oh, maybe it wasn't, I don't remember whatever piece it was, but it was about, uh, it was a money troubles. Oh yeah. And I was like, you know, I was like, talk to somebody who has, we all know people have money troubles. Maybe, maybe you yourself have money troubles, right? But you know, somebody who's, who's going through that, talk to them.
Yeah. I talked to them. What would you say to them if you had a solution to their money problems and in this world of voice acting, you do, or at least, you know, you, you come across that you do help them help them out. And let's say everyone, you know, is perfect with money. Let's just say you live in this.
Dystopian world where everyone is perfect. If that's the case, then we need to, we need to get, I need to know you. Everybody you know is doing great with money, then I need to know you. Let's just say that you, you had the person you're talking to in this spot or the spot doesn't really resonate with your, your friend who might have this problem.
When in doubt, pick somebody that you care about deeply, care about them deeply, and then talk to them as. If they actually had that problem, this is where the magic and the playing pretend comes in a little bit. It's like i'm talking to josh as if he had money problems, which of course he doesn't josh is perfect And nearly every single way everything's great So but but if I can pretend that josh does that's all I have to do But it was better for me to talk to josh somebody that I know Somebody that I care about that.
I work with and I see all the time. Yeah, look at that See less teasing more more. Nice more nice to josh Nice to josh. That's what we do with uh with owen Uh, when he is being mean to the dogs or like just as he's a he's a two year old. This is my uh, my my nephew Uh when he's mean to the dogs, we'll be like no nice to chef nice So nice to josh in this situation.
Am I the two year old or the dog? I'm the dog. Yep Well, I I mean I do I do care. I I think fondly of you as as as a pet, you know I'm saying as a This is going off the rails really, really fast. Yep, again, again, here we are. So anyways, but talk to somebody you care about, solve their problem, read out loud.
These are all things that we can do. And try to connect to whatever you're working with on an emotional level, because what we're trying to do ultimately at the end of the day in everything is create an audible experience for our listeners. How do you do that? With an emotional connection. So talk to somebody you care about.
That's how you can tie yourself. to these spots. And again, like you said, if you can't, yeah, if they're not necessarily in that situation, put them in that situation. That's the acting part, right? Yeah. It's not all gonna be, you know, perfect examples of what you're going through, but that's the acting part.
Yeah. I'm not a banker, but I can talk as if I was one, as if the person I'm talking to has money problems. That's it. That's all you gotta do. I'm not a banker, but I play one on the radio. I see. I'm not a banker, kid, but I can take your money right now and invest it. I'm a doctor, not an actor. I'm a champ.
Okay, well I think that just about does it for this episode. We should wrap this before we leave. All over the place. If anybody has made it to the end of this podcast, God bless you. We do have some big shows coming up in the near future. Yes. that we're really looking forward to getting to, um, that, uh, that I think you guys are really going to enjoy.
Just kind of a totally different perspective, uh, on the industry and, uh, and some advice on how you can kind of take control of that part of the industry. So, uh, just a little, a little tease there, uh, and that'll be coming up hopefully in the next few weeks or so that we'll be able to, uh, to line that up.
So we do have some, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel. There is a light at the end. It's going to be better than a bright light, a very bright light. It's going to be better than the sun. Like the sun. Yes, that is a bright light. The brightest light of all. That is a bright light. So stare at the sun is what we're trying to say.
Yes. Stare directly at the sun for as long as you can. Um, you heard it here first. Yeah. Yeah. Um, please don't do that. Please don't do that. Um, okay, good. So, uh, if you have any questions or concerns, which you may. Uh, after this one, uh, you can always reach out to us as you know, uh, Sam at voice coaches. com.
That's the easiest way to reach out to us to, uh, to just send us a quick little email of, uh, you know, uh, questions that you want us to answer discussions that you want us to have topics that you want us to, uh, to discuss, uh, guests that you'd like us to go to, uh, to, to invite onto the podcast. Uh, we'd, uh, we'd certainly love to hear from you and love to hear your reaction, maybe not specifically to this one, because I don't take.
bad news. Well, um, but on that note, uh, Sam, anything else to add? I think we've covered too much. I think we have. I think we have. It's been fun. Thanks for tuning in this week, everyone. Uh, for Sam. I'm Josh. Until next week, everyone. So long.
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He is Sam. We are D lighted to have you Sam. How we doing? I'm doing great, but Josh I didn't even notice anything wrong with that intro. I thought it was fine Oh, no, I mean not up to my standard if we I will seriously clearly my standards are far lower than yours. So it yeah So big big news big news coaches radio world.
We have a mascot We have a mascot. We have a mascot. I had to figure out, I was like, what are you talking about? We have a mascot. Yes, we do, but we do. Stick taps to, uh, to Bill Melke. One of our, uh, one of our listeners actually just did his demo this past week. And, um, well. If you're listening to this currently, it was probably about a month ago, but still just recently did his demo and, uh, and, um, the next day comes by to drop off a thank you note, which is, by the way, a great idea.
Um, not, I mean, not that you need to thank me. I don't care, but just a good habit to get into. Um, and we've talked about that, I believe, but he also dropped off a small, uh, baby. Bear that he gave to me. And, and, and here's the funny part about it. Not only is it a baby bear, it's a, it's a baby's toy. A bear for a baby.
Like, it has a rattle in it. Yep. And, uh, This is the perfect gift for Josh. There's like a rattle in there. Anytime I come into his studio, what is he doing? He's just, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it. Usually I just use keys, my keys, just to keep me entertained. You know, that's usually what it doesn't take much.
It doesn't take much, but now I have a bear to do it. And he is super soft and fluffy. Baby bear lives. Like baby bear, you know, I was, I think the last episode you were like, you know, Sam, you tease me too much. So I've been like, you know what? I'm clearly going too far with Josh. I got it. Tone it down, take a step back from that.
And then someone brings in a bear and I'm like, Well, I got, I gotta lean into that, cause that's hysterical. Well, it's funny because I saw it and I didn't, I didn't see Bill when he dropped it off, but it was given to me and I was like, Did someone get a toy for my kid? Like, my son's three years old, like, this Bear with the rattle is nice, but probably, uh, you know, a little bit, uh, is a little bit old for that.
And then I was like, no, it's not for your son. It's for you. I was like, awesome. Awesome. Yeah. When I, I wasn't there when it came in, but one of our other coworkers was, and he's like, yeah, Josh has got this present and it's like a stuffed animal. And I don't understand it. I'm like, oh. Oh, I get it. I get it.
Also, also, by the way, every single time Bill has come in for his class, he came in to do all his classes in studio, every time he has come in, he has brought things, most of them, except for this most recent bear, uh, have been food and, uh, very good food. Cannot recommend that enough. Um, so those of you who are doing your demo or coming into our studio, bring us things.
Are you, are you actually storing our audience? Are you trying to get our audience to feed you? Yeah, preferably. Preferably. That'd be great. Oh, I just wanted to clarify. That's cool. Great. Yeah. And it's, and it's funny. What food would you prefer, Josh? You know what, I do, I do, I do have a sweet tooth, but I'm trying to, trying not to.
Trying to, that's the thing, like, Bill has brought in, like, delicious snacks. Like, he brought in, like, a massive thing of M& Ms, and I did have a few. Yeah, they were tasty. They were, they were delightful. But here's the thing, he was, when he came in, he was like, Ah, so I, I trust my, uh, my, my food's been, uh, been well received.
I was like, man, that, that table in our break room is a black hole. Like, you put food in there, it is gone. It doesn't last long, it's true. Oh my god, we are animals here. Yeah, well. Like, it is crazy. Just cra and there's not that many people. We don't, we don't have a big staff here. It is crazy. Um, I do have an update, by the way.
Oh yeah, what's up? And, uh, not that anyone's been asking for it, but I'm gonna give it anyways. No, I'd love to. I'd love to hear it. Last Saturday, so, what's today? Doesn't really matter. But last Saturday, I was, uh, supposed to I have my 10k. Remember I'm doing my 5k, 10k, 15k. I was supposed to have my 10k. Uh, it was scheduled for last Saturday.
Uh, I, I woke up Saturday morning and uh, my eye, my right eye. Could not open because it was gooped shut with nastiness. That's not a medical term. I don't know what it actually is. It's grossness. And, uh, and so I had to go to the doctor and, like I said, I had a sinus infection that was becoming an eye infection and, uh, and clearly did not run the 10K that day.
But, but, and this is the moral to this story. I have signed up for another 10K in a couple weeks, and I will let everybody know how that one goes. Because we all run into issues, we all run into problems, whether your goal is to run a 10K, or whether your goal is to become a voice actor, things are gonna happen.
What do we gotta do? Roll the punches. And that's what I did. Oh, I love it. So what you're saying is that you had a plan and your plan failed or your plan did not happen as you anticipated or planned for lack of a better word. And now to Recuperate your plan. You have put in place another plan. This is correct.
Am I am I understand the story? Yeah. And, um, and yeah, and it and you know what, assuming everything goes off without a hitch there, it, uh, you know, it'll be a seamless transition. Seamless transition. What do we do? And here's the thing. We couldn't do the race on Saturday, obviously. Um, and that Sunday I was still pretty deep.
It was still pretty under the weather Sunday, Monday, uh, I researched, uh, another 10k that was going to happen before the 15 and, um, we signed up that, uh, two days later. That's great. So it was all right. There's an issue. It's a, it's a problem, but if we're not going to let it ruin everything, we're going to roll with it.
We're going to figure it out and we're going to do that. And yes, that, that applies to, you know, what happened this past week. But again, that, that I, I think is, is something, you know, we all set goals, we all have plans and, uh, Uh, the best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry, as they say, and, uh, and, and this one did.
That's okay. Once famously said. But I, I love that because I, for me personally, what I like to do to that and kind of to reflect that back to you as well, Josh, I am somebody who likes to try to continually work on projects and problems and things or whatever I'm working on. Like I like to put a little bit of energy towards it.
all the time. And the reason I like to do that is because I know things are going to happen that are actually going to get in the way of me executing on whatever I'm working on, whether it's running. So the fact that you had this plan, you had the deadline, you had the date, something comes up and it's like, ah, it's not going to happen.
You still put all this energy, preparation, work, anticipation, there's all of this momentum so that when it doesn't manifest the way you expect. You can still then pick it back up and you, nothing's lost. Nothing's lost at all. You're still on course. Maybe it's not the same day, but the day was arbitrary, but having the day was super important.
If you didn't have that day, you wouldn't have done any of this. And remember. Success is a pile of failure. You're just standing on top of it, and not underneath it. Success is a pile of failure? I don't wait, so It's a quote, it's a quote, I'm reading a quote. Oh, is it? Who's it by? I don't know. Uh, Dave Ramsey.
Dave Ramsey? I don't know Uh, isn't that like the Extreme Money Makeover guy? Could be. Is that Dave Ramsey? Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I think that's who that is. Success is a pile of failure. You're just standing on top of it, And not underneath it. Hmm, I, I see it. Okay, okay. So that failure can bury you, or that failure can build you up, so that you can stand on top of that failure, learn from it, grow from it, and become the success that you know that you can be.
This is, yeah, totally. It's very, very motivational. Woo! Wow! Just got heavy today. Thank you, Dave. Yeah, I think, um, wow. Wow. Reminds me, this morning we were talking about they're making a new version of The Lion King. Did you hear about this? I did hear about that, yes. Um, a new version of The Lion King, and we were quoting it.
Live action version. A live action with us. So many great people. John Oliver's gonna be in it. John Oliver is, he is Zazu. He's Zazu, and uh, Keegan's gonna be in it. Um, Who is Keegan Michael Keegan then? I think he's one of the, I think he's one of the Jackals. Or um, not Jackals, what are they? They're um, Hyenas.
Hyenas, yes. One of the hyenas, I think so. He was one of the names, I was like, I don't know this character. No, Beyonce is, uh, is not a, Yes. Yeah's super cool. But isn't, isn't Mufasa still James Earl Jones? James Earl Jones is coming back. Has to be. Who could play that part? Has to be, you know, only James Earl Jones.
And, uh, uh, uh, Donald Glover is, uh, is Simba? Yes. Yeah. Super cool. Yep. Yeah. Um, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his, uh, what's his rapper's name? Um, childish Gambino. Childish Gambino. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's super cool. So, but like, there's that thing with Rafiki with the, when Rafiki and. Simba, and he hits him in the head, and he's like, Ow, that hurts!
Uh, yes, that's in the past, doesn't matter. The past can still hurt. So, what I'm hearing in your story of Correction, I know your father. Sorry, that's one of my favorite parts. No, that's very good. I know your father, you mean you knew my father. Correction, I know your father. That was, that's spot on. I feel like I'm watching the movie.
That was very, that was very good. Uh, I don't even know what I was saying. But basically the fact that, like, the failure can be in your past and it does not matter. It does not matter. We can still move past it. Especially if we build a practice. Like, building a practice is super important in anything that we do.
Any endeavor. Keep doing it. Keep practicing. Like, you, you Josh, you do CrossFit, right? And I'm sure part of the, the virtue is not just, like, lifting heavy weights. It's lifting heavy weights. It's five times a week, right? Like it's like doing it or four times a week, however many times you make it to the gym to do it.
But it's that continual repetition over time. Yes. That's not a great, I mean, we don't always live ways, but, but yes, it is the, it is the act of it, you know, it's, it's fitness, right? It's it's, it's the act of working out or whatever it might be. Yeah. Right. Multiple, you know, on, on, on schedule. And then that's the thing, right?
You know, so for working out, yeah, I try to do it five times a week if I can for, for voice acting. A couple hours a week. It's probably all you need to do. Yeah. That's usually what I tell people, right? I mean i've had people be like, oh my god, i'm gonna do every every night I'm gonna spend a couple hours working on this stuff.
Wow, you're gonna burn yourself out so fast Yeah. So fast. So, you know, you know, you can, you can pace yourself. You should pace yourself as long as you have a plan. You know, I do one thing voice acting wise every single day and partially because I'm forced to do it, but it was something I did used to do all the time.
And that is read out loud. And yes, you're probably wondering, why am I being forced? Who is forcing Sam to read out loud? Please help me, I'm being forced to read out loud. My girlfriend insists that I do it every night before we go to bed. So like, for like five minutes, ten minutes, I have to read out loud.
Just like my three year old son does. Exactly. And honestly, it's wonderful. Are you reading the same things that we're reading? Yes, I am reading, um, Are you big into Little Blue Truck? Yes, exactly. Yeah, um, uh, Are you my mother? That's a good one. We've gone through it at least. seven times. It's such a lovely story.
What do we have? I'm trying to remember what books we have now. We're big into, uh, Piggy and Elephant right now. I don't know if you're into the Piggy and Elephant, but I don't really know Piggy and Elephant. No, that's all right. Uh, it's by a guy named Mo Willems. In fact, there was a Piggy and Elephant exhibit at a, an art museum in Kufrstown, New York, and we went a couple weeks ago, and, uh, there was a reading, and you get to make puppets, and they were all, like, original sketches, and it was, uh, it was cooler than I'd care to admit.
That's, uh, that sounds very cool. And we went for my son, or for me. But mostly for me. Well, you are the one who has the, the rattler in the room. So it doesn't matter. It's all fine. Fact. But reading out loud is super important. And like, it actually, it's, I know I'm making a joke about it here, but it's super helpful for me to continually pick up something, even though I've been doing this for 10 years, to keep doing it.
Because that is the most critical muscle. It's the base level. It's the basic thing that you have to do. And the more I work with words, the more I read the words out loud, the more I hear how they should be said. It comes back to that. Yeah. And I, you know, I tell people all the time in, in, in their classes, you know, Some people who struggle with accuracy, with accuracy when they're reading out loud, some people who struggle with that are people who are avid readers.
I mean, avid readers. Oh, sure, sure. But they don't read out loud. As we get older, we don't read out loud as much as we used to. I mean, again, yeah, I read the same five books every night. Now, what you're doing is obviously different, but most people, as you get older, I mean, you may read a lot. I read a ton, but I don't read out loud that much.
And reading out loud is, is, is different than reading to yourself. Granted, you're still doing the same, you know, machinations, but you know, it's a different sound. It's a different feel. It's a different speed. It's a different muscle. It's a different tool. It's a different tempo. It is. And it's a different skill set.
And you need to work on that skill set. And so those people who are avid readers and are struggling with their accuracy, it drives them crazy because they're like, I know I'm a good reader. I read all the time. And I'm like. It's just not, I'm not saying you can't read, I'm saying you're struggling reading out loud.
Big, big, big, big, big, big difference. Yeah, yeah. And that's why it is something you have to work on. And you know, one of the best things to do is not just to read out loud, read out loud things that you're not familiar with, right? Like, so like what I do, not as helpful, but read out because we do a lot of cold reading.
But I would still say too that even what you're doing is still better than not reading out loud at all. Sure, absolutely. It is really that practice of just like, it's storytelling, right? It is storytelling, but using somebody else's words, even if it's a story you've read a number of times, you're still, you're still doing it in real time.
You're still finessing it. You're still bringing it to life. You're still working on your rhythm and pace and all of those other elements come into play, even if you're a little more familiar with it. So I don't think that's nearly as bad. Like it's still better than not doing it. And for sure. Yeah. How many, like how many minutes do you think you do that at night, Josh?
Oh, I'm saying that's like all I do as well, and that's enough. I think that is enough base level, something you can do every day as a voice actor. So do you read Jocelyn stories? Like what do you read? No, it's uh, it's right now it's devil in the white city. It's whatever novel I'm reading and she'll pass out probably within like five minutes of it.
I was going to say, because like, I'm, I'm pretty sure you, that's not the only. time you're reading that book. No, I read it other times. So she always falls asleep. Okay. I was going to say, you're just like jumping in and out of it. And that's a complicated book. It really is. I listened to the audio book version of that on, uh, on a drive to and from Pittsburgh.
And it was perfect for that because I could just you know, inhale it all at one time. I will. I'll read it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're making a movie of that. Are they? Yeah. Oh yeah. That'd be fun. They are making a movie. Oh, he takes home. So he's crazy. It's so fascinating. But for like for her, which she finds it, she's like, I find it very soothing.
It helps her fall asleep. So we'll like, I do that. I'll read until she falls asleep and then I'll keep reading and then I'll, I'll start reading silently. But usually I read for about 10 minutes out loud and then I read to myself and that practice, it's, it really is so helpful for me. Every time I do it, I'm like, Oh my gosh.
I'm learning more, every single time. It really helps. Longevity, reading cold, emphasis, everything is super important. The next thing that I would add for like anyone who wants to develop a practice as a voice actor, ask yourself, what are you doing when you're telling a story? What is the point of these words?
Now that sounds like a big question, but I think it be, it can become a little bit more second nature. And like for me, and we've talked about this many times before, everything I'm doing as a voice actor. And. Every time the element that is always apparent is that I'm an everyday superhero. That's it. I am saving the day.
I am me I am sam. These are my words and i'm telling this story for some explicit reason my superhero And I am josh's superhero, which goes without saying, but yeah Did you ever know that you're josh's hero? I don't know. I was trying to remember the next line. You're everything I wish I could be. I wish I could be.
I can fly higher than an eagle. Oh, thank you. This is great. I feel like I'm doing karaoke now. Cause you are the wind beneath my wings. Where the hell is my lighter? Cause you are the wind beneath my wings. That's good. That's really good. Is that Bette Midler? I think it's Bette Midler. Yes. Yes it is.
Beaches. Beaches. Yep. I remember that movie. As a kid I was never allowed to watch it, but my mom and my sister loved it so they'd always be like crying in the room and apparently it was inappropriate for me when I'm like five or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. So they'd kick me out but I'd be like, why are they crying?
Why is everyone crying? I can't say, I have not seen that movie. I have not seen that movie. I've still never been allowed to see it, so I have never seen it. I'm pretty sure at this point you could, uh, you could see it if you wanted. I don't know if you may not want to anymore, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't.
You're gonna go home, your mom's gonna call you and be like, Uh, no Sam, no, you're not ready. I am an adult, I can make decisions for myself, but most decisions I defer to Josh on and let him decide for me. We'll steal Magnolias. Oh! Have I? Oh, well, that'll get you going. Parts of that movie. I don't know. My wife loves Steel Magnolias.
Well, and it's on TV a lot. Constant. Um, and so I've seen, I don't know if I've ever seen the whole thing all the way through, but I've seen every part of it at one time or another. And it is on the one hand. Yes, it is. It is sad. On the other hand, it is hilarious because those Southern women are. Hysterical.
Hysterical. Uh, so. Anyway. Anyway. Uh, any other tearjerkers? Um. Uh, fried green tomatoes? I don't know. I'm trying to think of what else. Never seen that one. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever seen it either, but I remember my sister and my mom loved it as well. I'm trying to think of what else. Yeah. Tearjerkers.
Hmm. I don't know. I don't know. I only cry at movies, I'm going to be honest with you. Really? Yeah, I don't. Hmm. I do. Depends on the movie. Of course you do. Depends on, yeah, well, I'm sensitive. What can I say? Yeah, I've always thought that. Yeah. No, I, I, uh, I'm not really a big movie crier. Really? Yeah. My wife will.
Oh, so we were watching The Land Before Time. Uh, this was like a year ago and you've seen The Land Before Time. Great movie. Great movie. Well, uh, spoiler alert in the beginning, Littlefoot's mom dies. And it is crushing and, uh, and he's like, yo, yeah, like she, she, you know, she dies and he, you know, doesn't really know, you know, he's a little baby brontosaurus or brachiosaurus.
I'm not sure. Um, but, and, and, and, and my son, oh my God, my wife is already borderline crying at this point. And as he's walking away, my son goes, where's his mommy? Where's his mommy? Oh no. And my wife just lost it. I mean just lost it. And I was like, wow, buddy, that was cold. That was cold. Where's his mommy?
Blah! Tears. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Rough. Rough. Yeah, I'm trying to think the last you know I can remember the first movie I ever cried in and it was Schindler's List at the ending of that movie when they actually show Like all the real people I was I that was the first time I ever cried in a movie that has probably like 16 When I saw that it was I cried during um, ever seen life is beautiful.
Oh, yeah, that's a great movie Oh, I love that one got me. I've seen that a couple times. I saw it in Uh, the, the Italian. And it was, and that, yeah. Oof. Yeah. Oof. Did you ever, for me, a movie that still kind of gets me every year that I watch, that I love, I'd put it up there, probably my top five favorite movies of all time, It's a Wonderful Life, like, the older I get, the more I'm like, I love this movie.
I've never seen it. Oh, really? I've never seen it. Yeah, it's, it's beautiful, and it's, it's one of those, one of those films. Every time a bell rings An angel gets his way Yeah, I mean, I'm familiar with the movie, but I have never, I've never seen it. Jimmy Stewart, man, he's great. It's, it's great. It's cheesy, you know, it's dated, it's from a different, a very specific time and place, but it is, it's, it's about family, you know, it's about being And you know what, that's, those are the movies that, that, that get me like, um, like the end of, uh Feel the dreams.
Oh, yeah. Catch with his dad. I don't cry, but I'm like, that's beautiful. That's I mean, that's that hits me right there, especially now as a dad. I'm like, whoo. It's a little, uh, get allergies. I think is that what's happening here? Allergies. Yeah. It's Paul. It's the Paul and it's the Paul and definitely hit me right now.
Yeah. Did you ever see the movie? Never let me go. It's a book. Uh, yeah, it's honestly, I watched it again recently when I first saw it. I loved it. That movie totally kill like slayed me. You know, I was a little bit younger and it's It's, it's, it's this like, uh, semi utopian esque world, uh, where there's these, one class of people that are like, essentially donors for another class of people, and they're like harvested.
Yeah, it's really, it's really bleak. Wow. And then the ending of the movie is exactly as awful as you would Did you say utopian? I think you mean dystopian. Dystopian, yeah, yeah. Well, for some people it's utopian. I mean, yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Hmm, hmm. This sounds like, this is a utopia, this is a paradise, I think.
I will take your kidney, that's right. Thank you very much. Uh, yeah, it's pretty, uh, it's pretty brutal. But then, uh, we watched it recently, Jocelyn and I. I was like, oh, you should see this, this is good. No, it doesn't hold up, so. But that's a movie that I did cry in the first time I saw. That's my connection there.
Oh, what else? Woo! It's gone off the rails a little bit. Yeah, really, really. We're all over the rails a little bit here. Read out loud. Read out loud. Read out loud. Make a plan. Go for a run. Yeah. Well, no, but here's something that I can tie it all together with. Oh, please do. Let me tie this with a nice bow.
You know, talking about like crying, right? One thing that I tell people all the time, when you are voice acting. Pick somebody that you know and care deeply about, that you just love being around, one of your best friends or whomever, and talk to them. That's it. If you do nothing else when you're reading out loud, talking to somebody specifically that you know will make the words so much more meaningful and compelling, and it'll give us that conversational tone.
That's it. Well, yeah, and we've talked about it. Try to Try to pick someone not only that you know, but, but that might actually benefit from that, right? We talk about you, you know, you say you're an everyday superhero, you're solving problems, right? Uh, I was doing a piece with someone and I, and I think I stole this directly from you, but I was doing a piece with someone and um, it was, I believe it was Arnett Financial.
Oh yeah, and you know, it's about, uh, Oh, maybe it wasn't, I don't remember whatever piece it was, but it was about, uh, it was a money troubles. Oh yeah. And I was like, you know, I was like, talk to somebody who has, we all know people have money troubles. Maybe, maybe you yourself have money troubles, right? But you know, somebody who's, who's going through that, talk to them.
Yeah. I talked to them. What would you say to them if you had a solution to their money problems and in this world of voice acting, you do, or at least, you know, you, you come across that you do help them help them out. And let's say everyone, you know, is perfect with money. Let's just say you live in this.
Dystopian world where everyone is perfect. If that's the case, then we need to, we need to get, I need to know you. Everybody you know is doing great with money, then I need to know you. Let's just say that you, you had the person you're talking to in this spot or the spot doesn't really resonate with your, your friend who might have this problem.
When in doubt, pick somebody that you care about deeply, care about them deeply, and then talk to them as. If they actually had that problem, this is where the magic and the playing pretend comes in a little bit. It's like i'm talking to josh as if he had money problems, which of course he doesn't josh is perfect And nearly every single way everything's great So but but if I can pretend that josh does that's all I have to do But it was better for me to talk to josh somebody that I know Somebody that I care about that.
I work with and I see all the time. Yeah, look at that See less teasing more more. Nice more nice to josh Nice to josh. That's what we do with uh with owen Uh, when he is being mean to the dogs or like just as he's a he's a two year old. This is my uh, my my nephew Uh when he's mean to the dogs, we'll be like no nice to chef nice So nice to josh in this situation.
Am I the two year old or the dog? I'm the dog. Yep Well, I I mean I do I do care. I I think fondly of you as as as a pet, you know I'm saying as a This is going off the rails really, really fast. Yep, again, again, here we are. So anyways, but talk to somebody you care about, solve their problem, read out loud.
These are all things that we can do. And try to connect to whatever you're working with on an emotional level, because what we're trying to do ultimately at the end of the day in everything is create an audible experience for our listeners. How do you do that? With an emotional connection. So talk to somebody you care about.
That's how you can tie yourself. to these spots. And again, like you said, if you can't, yeah, if they're not necessarily in that situation, put them in that situation. That's the acting part, right? Yeah. It's not all gonna be, you know, perfect examples of what you're going through, but that's the acting part.
Yeah. I'm not a banker, but I can talk as if I was one, as if the person I'm talking to has money problems. That's it. That's all you gotta do. I'm not a banker, but I play one on the radio. I see. I'm not a banker, kid, but I can take your money right now and invest it. I'm a doctor, not an actor. I'm a champ.
Okay, well I think that just about does it for this episode. We should wrap this before we leave. All over the place. If anybody has made it to the end of this podcast, God bless you. We do have some big shows coming up in the near future. Yes. that we're really looking forward to getting to, um, that, uh, that I think you guys are really going to enjoy.
Just kind of a totally different perspective, uh, on the industry and, uh, and some advice on how you can kind of take control of that part of the industry. So, uh, just a little, a little tease there, uh, and that'll be coming up hopefully in the next few weeks or so that we'll be able to, uh, to line that up.
So we do have some, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel. There is a light at the end. It's going to be better than a bright light, a very bright light. It's going to be better than the sun. Like the sun. Yes, that is a bright light. The brightest light of all. That is a bright light. So stare at the sun is what we're trying to say.
Yes. Stare directly at the sun for as long as you can. Um, you heard it here first. Yeah. Yeah. Um, please don't do that. Please don't do that. Um, okay, good. So, uh, if you have any questions or concerns, which you may. Uh, after this one, uh, you can always reach out to us as you know, uh, Sam at voice coaches. com.
That's the easiest way to reach out to us to, uh, to just send us a quick little email of, uh, you know, uh, questions that you want us to answer discussions that you want us to have topics that you want us to, uh, to discuss, uh, guests that you'd like us to go to, uh, to, to invite onto the podcast. Uh, we'd, uh, we'd certainly love to hear from you and love to hear your reaction, maybe not specifically to this one, because I don't take.
bad news. Well, um, but on that note, uh, Sam, anything else to add? I think we've covered too much. I think we have. I think we have. It's been fun. Thanks for tuning in this week, everyone. Uh, for Sam. I'm Josh. Until next week, everyone. So long.
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