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Voice Coaches Radio Episode 714 ” Side Hustle Reality Check”
Tina: [00:00:00] Oh, I'm supposed to go,
John: see, I tried to get Tina to started. You see, she doesn't because you know what? Okay. I'm John.
Tina: I'm Tina. This
John: voice coach is radio, by the way. I was, I've been trying to, you know, give Tina a lot more rope because I had someone say to me. I could tell by the podcast you like to talk.
And I'm like, what is that supposed to mean? You do? And then I, and then I said, if I don't talk, no one's gonna talk. And they said, oh yeah, Tina's a little quieter than you. And so I'm trying to have Tina take over. She doesn't wanna do it. She doesn't wanna do
Tina: it. No. I have no desire to. No, you lead. I'll follow.
John: Alright, so well, all right. So the episode today is gonna be side hustle reality check.
Tina: Yes.
John: Now what does that mean? What, what it means is I. You know, I have so many people tell me, Hey, I, I, I actually love my job. Mm-hmm. But I would like to do this as a side hustle. Yes. I wanna make money on the side. And so I wanna talk about that.
Because some people have [00:01:00] unreal expectations.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: Like, I, I, the other question I get related to that, and usually by the same person, is something like, okay, how long before I can make money doing this?
Tina: Yep. How quick can I get my first job?
John: How quick? Yeah.
Tina: Yes.
John: So I wanna talk about that. Um, first I, let's, I guess I'll do it in order.
First off, when you think about a side hustle mm-hmm. And, and you wanna make money doing something, also understand that to make money, even if it's part-time
Tina: mm-hmm.
John: You still have to be a professional. Like, so I, I want to make that clear. So, because people say, well, I just wanna do this on the side. Great.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Let me relate this. And I, I actually tell, I'd say this in my webinar, so you'll hear this again, but I think it's a really good, uh, example, if I was to have an electrical issue at my house
Tina: Yes.
John: And I hired an electric. If that person shows up and says, yeah, just so you know, I'm just a part-time electrician.
You know what? I still need that person to be
Tina: an electrician. An
John: electrician?
Tina: Yeah. Okay.
John: I'm not gonna stand next to that person. Mm-hmm. Show them [00:02:00] how to do their job, because I'm not an electrician. Mm-hmm. But even if I was, I paid you. To do the job.
Tina: Yes.
John: This is very similar. So yes, you can do this as a side hustle, but that doesn't mean you can just not be a professional voice actor.
Tina: Oh, no. Yeah. So
John: understand that you will have to learn how to be a voice actor, however you do that.
Tina: Yes.
John: Okay. You're gonna, you're gonna get some voiceover coaching, get some voice coaching. Right. So that's the first part. But, but then the second part where you, you, you do want to, you. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'm gonna learn how to do this.
I wouldn't put time limits on it like that.
Tina: No, absolutely not.
John: Because you could listen, you could get a job right away. They're people who have.
Tina: Yes,
John: but there are people who do very, very well in this industry right now.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: And it took them like nine months to get the first job.
Tina: Yeah. That's what, that's what I'm finding with a lot that yes, you're right, some bam right place, right time.
That's how I always, you think about that, you know, and it's your voice that they want, but it's, sometimes it does take a, you know, sending in your audition, sending in your demo, [00:03:00] send it. Send it and you're sending it
John: follow up, follow up, follow up
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Tina: a Yeah, exactly.
John: Again, you're running a small business like we always say.
Tina: Yeah. I mean, I, even though we call it a side hustle, I think of it as like a part-time job.
John: Yeah.
Tina: It's a part-time job, so treat it as if it is still, you're
John: running a little part-time business iss
Tina: really what you're
John: doing side business.
Tina: Yeah.
John: And so you're, you're gonna send demos out and then you're gonna follow up mm-hmm.
And you're gonna follow up with those and, and continue to follow up with those people because you wanna always put yourself in front of them.
Tina: Yes.
John: You know, I love to say that. No, no. I don't know if I'd love to say it. I, I, you know, I don't know if, I'd love to say that the best voice gets the job because it's not the case.
Tina: No, it's,
John: yeah, and, and you know what? I don't know if that's good or bad. I feel like, I do feel this is one of the few industries where the people who get the work are the people who deserve it. In other words, they put themselves in the right place at the right time. Mm-hmm. And not only did they do that, they kept following up.
'cause they actually want the job sending a demo out and then sitting around and waiting and saying, if they like me, they'll hire me. Is not the way.
Tina: No,
John: no is [00:04:00] not the way. 'cause it doesn't work like that.
Tina: And, and here's the thing. It's not like, um, the, that's so easy to follow up with. Just even a, an email.
John: Yeah,
Tina: just, that's it. I just, Hey, just checking in. I just wanted to see
John: exactly,
Tina: what'd you think? Any, any feedback, anything like that. So you don't have to say, did I get the job? Did you hire somebody? You could just come in nice and subtle and say, Hey, just wanted to, you know, check in with you. Think, see how things are going.
John: Yeah. Hey, Bob,
Tina: how about some feedback on my, my Now?
John: Well, okay. I, I, you know, I was gonna, lemme, okay, so let me explain why I don't like that part of it. And, and it's something I tell people and, okay. So there's, it's a little trick that voice actors used to try to use, which was they wanna force me to respond to them
Tina: Okay.
John: By saying something like. Hey, just checking in. What'd you think of my demo? Now? I could tell you from my perspective. Mm-hmm. Once someone says, what did you think of my demo? It takes you out of the hiring pool and puts you into an amateur. Wants me I
Tina: get what you're saying.
Yeah.
John: To [00:05:00] critique their demo and I can critique anyone's demo.
Mm-hmm.
Tina: Yeah.
John: And so now, now, and, and, and so. I'll respond to you, but I, I'm gonna tell you what I think of your demo and at that point mm-hmm. I, I feel like you're not a professional because you're asking me to critique your demo, which means you're not very confident in your demo. So I don't ever, I, for me, I don't ever recommend going, Hey, gimme some feedback, or Could you gimme some feedback?
'cause at that point it's like you don't want feedback on your demo.
Tina: Yeah.
John: It's like saying that about your resume. Can you gimme some feedback on my resume? I would more, I, I would more say. You know, I would, um, follow up and just, you don't have to do anything really. We know why you're doing it. Yeah. You just go, Hey, just checking in.
How are things going at the studio? And by the way, you may have heard me on this, this or this, if you've done anything. If not and say, hey, any, you know, you can ask, Hey, you know, um, you learn something about people at the studio. How's your dog? Like, very easy to learn about Marcy. Yeah. We have a, a, a dog that's always here.
Mm-hmm. Hey, how are things going? This too. How's Marcy doing? You know, things like that really go a long way. Yeah. You don't have to beg for work or anything like that.
Tina: No, no. [00:06:00]
John: And I've heard from other producers that now it's not my thing either. Mm-hmm. 'cause I'm pretty, you know, easygoing if someone asks me for feedback and give it to you.
But I'm kind of, but I've heard from other producers who say that actually. Mm-hmm. David has said that to me is like, someone asked me for feedback in their demo. I'm like, okay, this person's not a professional.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: Right. So I just don't, so that's one part I maybe wouldn't do, but, you know, have you done that?
Does that work for you? Um, if it works, then you should do it. I, you know, I'm just giving you my perspective and what I've heard from some producers.
Tina: You know, it's been a while since I've done that, and I think I did that right in the beginning though, because I did want to improve and, and I just wanted to know on my end.
Yes, I did a professional demo, but I am also sending them a little bit of their. Of their script, I'm ing
John: That's different using their script, although that's different. Okay. So that's different. That's a completely different thing.
Tina: Okay. Yeah. So if I especially
John: Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. Okay. So if you're se if you're sending up a, so if they sent, basically if you're, that's an audition basically.
Tina: Yeah. An audition, yeah.
John: If you're do, if you're reading a part of their script mm-hmm. Absolutely fine to ask what they thought of it and your [00:07:00] feedback. Yeah. I, I actually think that's a good idea. I, I was, I thought you meant the demo. I would never ask. Any feedback on my demo?
Tina: Yeah, no. It's more of when I'm auditioning for their, they gimme sense, little segment sense.
Yeah. And just say, okay, you know, or um, and I always just put in there, Hey, I am available, you know? Yeah, especially, and if it's something that, like if I do audition for something and um, I'll let them know, I'll kind of restate, Hey, you know, my turnaround time is within 24 hours. That's
John: smart. Yeah. I
Tina: can do less than that.
You know, depending on when I get the script or anything like that, I can
John: do rush jobs.
Tina: Yes.
John: Yeah, absolutely. And that's good too, because even if they don't get you for this job.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: They know that if they need someone last second,
Tina: yeah,
John: you're available. So that's smart. So there's, yeah. So follow up always.
Yeah. Don't get, there's, there's a, there's a mindset, and again, this goes back to a prior episode we did, where people I think, feel silly doing certain things, not just doing the voiceovers, but also I, people who have said to me. Well, I've sent my demo out and I figured if they like my voice, they [00:08:00] will call me demo.
Yeah. And I'm like, that is not how it works. I get it. I understand. Mm-hmm. You feel like you're bothering us, right? Mm-hmm. You feel like, oh, I don't wanna be a pest. Yeah. You should follow up because you'd be surprised how some jobs are cast. Like I've, I, we've hired people that we just gotta follow up from and that's why we we're like, oh, that's right.
Yeah. We really like her. And, but if she hadn't followed up that day mm-hmm. It might've been someone else.
Tina: Yeah. Right. Because studios get busy. Yeah. They, they are. And sometimes, you know, it just comes in, but then you do, all of a sudden your name does come across. Right. They do see that. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. We should get them in here.
John: But the, the point of it is you could be, listen. Sometimes you don't get hired right away. Mm-hmm. And there's no rhyme or reason, but keep putting yourself in the right place. And so don't put, I tell people, if you put a time limit, if you decide you wanna get into voiceovers and, and, and you're like, okay, I'll give you three months, you're gonna reach that three month period.
Tina: It goes by fast.
John: Yeah. And not only that. Mm-hmm. How many jobs is enough for you to go, oh, I got enough. Like, is one job enough? So you got one to three months and you're like, oh, I'm good.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Two, two jobs. Three. [00:09:00] Don't do that. My advice is you want to get into voiceovers and this goes for everything.
Mm-hmm. If you decide you wanna pursue something, pursue it.
Tina: Yeah, go for
John: it. Don't, don't put like some kinda weird time limit on it mm-hmm. Where, where you're going to reach it and you're, you're really setting yourself up for failure.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Right. That's not you at that point.
Tina: No, no. And, and, and it is finding, you've gotta just look in for, especially when you're looking for jobs, look in different areas.
That you wouldn't even think, you know, or just, you know, where can I, where do I hear a voiceover and then how do I get, how do I find that type of job? Just think of where you do hear them. Like I said, we hear 'em on the bus. You hear 'em on the train, on the subway, the airport. Call up the airport and ask, you know, talk to the manager at the airport and say, Hey, you know, I do voice acting.
You know?
John: Yes. You'd be surprised. Yeah. You know, all of a sudden you're doing the alright. All of a sudden you're the voice. Yeah. At the airport and all, and all it took was for you to contact someone.
Tina: Yeah.
John: So, yeah. That, that's, so, yeah. Again, it's, it's, um, but the reality is mm-hmm. Side hustle reality check is, [00:10:00] it may take you two weeks, it may take you two months.
Mm-hmm. It may take you nine months, but if you keep plugging away, you'll, you'll get the job.
Tina: You will.
John: Okay. Just, um, don't put unreal expectations. Mm-hmm. And I think that's what the reality check here is. Don't. Don't go, oh, if, you know, and also don't do this from a desperate point of view. I tell people, you get into voiceovers, you should absolutely start doing this on the side.
Tina: Yes, yes.
John: Don't do that thing where like, I don't care how good I, if you and I meet at a webinar. Mm-hmm. Self plug, if you, yeah. If you and I meet at an intro to voice acting webinar and I think your voice sounds amazing. Okay. It doesn't mean you're gonna get a job right away.
Tina: No, no.
John: I, it, it's not how this works.
Right. Um, it means I think your voice is amazing. Mm-hmm. And you could absolutely do this, but don't leverage that in your mind. And, and also don't quit your job. Don't go, John thought I was amazing. I'm gonna quit job. Get the voiceovers. No.
Tina: Yeah,
John: absolutely. Do this on the side. And as you start to get work.
You may be able to move this into [00:11:00] something more full-time. Mm-hmm. If that's your goal. That's not everyone's goal.
Tina: No.
John: Some people love their other job. They just really like to do this on the side 'cause it's creative and different from what they're doing and they like to make a little money on the side.
Yeah. And that's fine too.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Whatever your goals are. Part-time. Full-time. Supplemental retirement, that's all. Cool. You can absolutely do that here.
Tina: Oh yeah. Absolutely. Just, but just keep at it.
John: Yes. This is extremely flexible. Mm-hmm. But just, yeah. Keep plugging away.
Tina: Yeah.
John: So that's, that's our, uh. Reality, it can be done.
Also, reality check. Yeah, absolutely.
Tina: It can be done.
John: Yep. So there you go. I mean, we're really,
Tina: I don't know what's wrong with us today.
John: We're still, we're just, you know, we're, we're on it today. Uh, so now, um, again, I wanna just reiterate this. Any questions at all, email us. Yes. You know, we haven't been getting a lot of new questions.
I have gotten some questions from people and I would like to do. Uh, a listener questions episode again, but we're just not getting a ton of questions. Mm-hmm. They're the kind of repeat questions, and so I would encourage people who, if you've sent me questions recently and you're wondering why I haven't answered them mm-hmm.
I did [00:12:00] go back to listener questions. I did answer them, answered them. I did, and so did Tina. Tina also answered them.
Tina: I also do sometimes.
John: Yeah. So we both answered them for you. But uh, you know,
Tina: any questions? Anytime? Anytime. That's, I always tell. Yeah, there you go. Reach out at any time. We'll help you out as much as
John: we can.
Yeah, so, so again, John [email protected]
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John: see, I tried to get Tina to started. You see, she doesn't because you know what? Okay. I'm John.
Tina: I'm Tina. This
John: voice coach is radio, by the way. I was, I've been trying to, you know, give Tina a lot more rope because I had someone say to me. I could tell by the podcast you like to talk.
And I'm like, what is that supposed to mean? You do? And then I, and then I said, if I don't talk, no one's gonna talk. And they said, oh yeah, Tina's a little quieter than you. And so I'm trying to have Tina take over. She doesn't wanna do it. She doesn't wanna do
Tina: it. No. I have no desire to. No, you lead. I'll follow.
John: Alright, so well, all right. So the episode today is gonna be side hustle reality check.
Tina: Yes.
John: Now what does that mean? What, what it means is I. You know, I have so many people tell me, Hey, I, I, I actually love my job. Mm-hmm. But I would like to do this as a side hustle. Yes. I wanna make money on the side. And so I wanna talk about that.
Because some people have [00:01:00] unreal expectations.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: Like, I, I, the other question I get related to that, and usually by the same person, is something like, okay, how long before I can make money doing this?
Tina: Yep. How quick can I get my first job?
John: How quick? Yeah.
Tina: Yes.
John: So I wanna talk about that. Um, first I, let's, I guess I'll do it in order.
First off, when you think about a side hustle mm-hmm. And, and you wanna make money doing something, also understand that to make money, even if it's part-time
Tina: mm-hmm.
John: You still have to be a professional. Like, so I, I want to make that clear. So, because people say, well, I just wanna do this on the side. Great.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Let me relate this. And I, I actually tell, I'd say this in my webinar, so you'll hear this again, but I think it's a really good, uh, example, if I was to have an electrical issue at my house
Tina: Yes.
John: And I hired an electric. If that person shows up and says, yeah, just so you know, I'm just a part-time electrician.
You know what? I still need that person to be
Tina: an electrician. An
John: electrician?
Tina: Yeah. Okay.
John: I'm not gonna stand next to that person. Mm-hmm. Show them [00:02:00] how to do their job, because I'm not an electrician. Mm-hmm. But even if I was, I paid you. To do the job.
Tina: Yes.
John: This is very similar. So yes, you can do this as a side hustle, but that doesn't mean you can just not be a professional voice actor.
Tina: Oh, no. Yeah. So
John: understand that you will have to learn how to be a voice actor, however you do that.
Tina: Yes.
John: Okay. You're gonna, you're gonna get some voiceover coaching, get some voice coaching. Right. So that's the first part. But, but then the second part where you, you, you do want to, you. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'm gonna learn how to do this.
I wouldn't put time limits on it like that.
Tina: No, absolutely not.
John: Because you could listen, you could get a job right away. They're people who have.
Tina: Yes,
John: but there are people who do very, very well in this industry right now.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: And it took them like nine months to get the first job.
Tina: Yeah. That's what, that's what I'm finding with a lot that yes, you're right, some bam right place, right time.
That's how I always, you think about that, you know, and it's your voice that they want, but it's, sometimes it does take a, you know, sending in your audition, sending in your demo, [00:03:00] send it. Send it and you're sending it
John: follow up, follow up, follow up
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Tina: a Yeah, exactly.
John: Again, you're running a small business like we always say.
Tina: Yeah. I mean, I, even though we call it a side hustle, I think of it as like a part-time job.
John: Yeah.
Tina: It's a part-time job, so treat it as if it is still, you're
John: running a little part-time business iss
Tina: really what you're
John: doing side business.
Tina: Yeah.
John: And so you're, you're gonna send demos out and then you're gonna follow up mm-hmm.
And you're gonna follow up with those and, and continue to follow up with those people because you wanna always put yourself in front of them.
Tina: Yes.
John: You know, I love to say that. No, no. I don't know if I'd love to say it. I, I, you know, I don't know if, I'd love to say that the best voice gets the job because it's not the case.
Tina: No, it's,
John: yeah, and, and you know what? I don't know if that's good or bad. I feel like, I do feel this is one of the few industries where the people who get the work are the people who deserve it. In other words, they put themselves in the right place at the right time. Mm-hmm. And not only did they do that, they kept following up.
'cause they actually want the job sending a demo out and then sitting around and waiting and saying, if they like me, they'll hire me. Is not the way.
Tina: No,
John: no is [00:04:00] not the way. 'cause it doesn't work like that.
Tina: And, and here's the thing. It's not like, um, the, that's so easy to follow up with. Just even a, an email.
John: Yeah,
Tina: just, that's it. I just, Hey, just checking in. I just wanted to see
John: exactly,
Tina: what'd you think? Any, any feedback, anything like that. So you don't have to say, did I get the job? Did you hire somebody? You could just come in nice and subtle and say, Hey, just wanted to, you know, check in with you. Think, see how things are going.
John: Yeah. Hey, Bob,
Tina: how about some feedback on my, my Now?
John: Well, okay. I, I, you know, I was gonna, lemme, okay, so let me explain why I don't like that part of it. And, and it's something I tell people and, okay. So there's, it's a little trick that voice actors used to try to use, which was they wanna force me to respond to them
Tina: Okay.
John: By saying something like. Hey, just checking in. What'd you think of my demo? Now? I could tell you from my perspective. Mm-hmm. Once someone says, what did you think of my demo? It takes you out of the hiring pool and puts you into an amateur. Wants me I
Tina: get what you're saying.
Yeah.
John: To [00:05:00] critique their demo and I can critique anyone's demo.
Mm-hmm.
Tina: Yeah.
John: And so now, now, and, and, and so. I'll respond to you, but I, I'm gonna tell you what I think of your demo and at that point mm-hmm. I, I feel like you're not a professional because you're asking me to critique your demo, which means you're not very confident in your demo. So I don't ever, I, for me, I don't ever recommend going, Hey, gimme some feedback, or Could you gimme some feedback?
'cause at that point it's like you don't want feedback on your demo.
Tina: Yeah.
John: It's like saying that about your resume. Can you gimme some feedback on my resume? I would more, I, I would more say. You know, I would, um, follow up and just, you don't have to do anything really. We know why you're doing it. Yeah. You just go, Hey, just checking in.
How are things going at the studio? And by the way, you may have heard me on this, this or this, if you've done anything. If not and say, hey, any, you know, you can ask, Hey, you know, um, you learn something about people at the studio. How's your dog? Like, very easy to learn about Marcy. Yeah. We have a, a, a dog that's always here.
Mm-hmm. Hey, how are things going? This too. How's Marcy doing? You know, things like that really go a long way. Yeah. You don't have to beg for work or anything like that.
Tina: No, no. [00:06:00]
John: And I've heard from other producers that now it's not my thing either. Mm-hmm. 'cause I'm pretty, you know, easygoing if someone asks me for feedback and give it to you.
But I'm kind of, but I've heard from other producers who say that actually. Mm-hmm. David has said that to me is like, someone asked me for feedback in their demo. I'm like, okay, this person's not a professional.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: Right. So I just don't, so that's one part I maybe wouldn't do, but, you know, have you done that?
Does that work for you? Um, if it works, then you should do it. I, you know, I'm just giving you my perspective and what I've heard from some producers.
Tina: You know, it's been a while since I've done that, and I think I did that right in the beginning though, because I did want to improve and, and I just wanted to know on my end.
Yes, I did a professional demo, but I am also sending them a little bit of their. Of their script, I'm ing
John: That's different using their script, although that's different. Okay. So that's different. That's a completely different thing.
Tina: Okay. Yeah. So if I especially
John: Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. Okay. So if you're se if you're sending up a, so if they sent, basically if you're, that's an audition basically.
Tina: Yeah. An audition, yeah.
John: If you're do, if you're reading a part of their script mm-hmm. Absolutely fine to ask what they thought of it and your [00:07:00] feedback. Yeah. I, I actually think that's a good idea. I, I was, I thought you meant the demo. I would never ask. Any feedback on my demo?
Tina: Yeah, no. It's more of when I'm auditioning for their, they gimme sense, little segment sense.
Yeah. And just say, okay, you know, or um, and I always just put in there, Hey, I am available, you know? Yeah, especially, and if it's something that, like if I do audition for something and um, I'll let them know, I'll kind of restate, Hey, you know, my turnaround time is within 24 hours. That's
John: smart. Yeah. I
Tina: can do less than that.
You know, depending on when I get the script or anything like that, I can
John: do rush jobs.
Tina: Yes.
John: Yeah, absolutely. And that's good too, because even if they don't get you for this job.
Tina: Mm-hmm.
John: They know that if they need someone last second,
Tina: yeah,
John: you're available. So that's smart. So there's, yeah. So follow up always.
Yeah. Don't get, there's, there's a, there's a mindset, and again, this goes back to a prior episode we did, where people I think, feel silly doing certain things, not just doing the voiceovers, but also I, people who have said to me. Well, I've sent my demo out and I figured if they like my voice, they [00:08:00] will call me demo.
Yeah. And I'm like, that is not how it works. I get it. I understand. Mm-hmm. You feel like you're bothering us, right? Mm-hmm. You feel like, oh, I don't wanna be a pest. Yeah. You should follow up because you'd be surprised how some jobs are cast. Like I've, I, we've hired people that we just gotta follow up from and that's why we we're like, oh, that's right.
Yeah. We really like her. And, but if she hadn't followed up that day mm-hmm. It might've been someone else.
Tina: Yeah. Right. Because studios get busy. Yeah. They, they are. And sometimes, you know, it just comes in, but then you do, all of a sudden your name does come across. Right. They do see that. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. We should get them in here.
John: But the, the point of it is you could be, listen. Sometimes you don't get hired right away. Mm-hmm. And there's no rhyme or reason, but keep putting yourself in the right place. And so don't put, I tell people, if you put a time limit, if you decide you wanna get into voiceovers and, and, and you're like, okay, I'll give you three months, you're gonna reach that three month period.
Tina: It goes by fast.
John: Yeah. And not only that. Mm-hmm. How many jobs is enough for you to go, oh, I got enough. Like, is one job enough? So you got one to three months and you're like, oh, I'm good.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Two, two jobs. Three. [00:09:00] Don't do that. My advice is you want to get into voiceovers and this goes for everything.
Mm-hmm. If you decide you wanna pursue something, pursue it.
Tina: Yeah, go for
John: it. Don't, don't put like some kinda weird time limit on it mm-hmm. Where, where you're going to reach it and you're, you're really setting yourself up for failure.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Right. That's not you at that point.
Tina: No, no. And, and, and it is finding, you've gotta just look in for, especially when you're looking for jobs, look in different areas.
That you wouldn't even think, you know, or just, you know, where can I, where do I hear a voiceover and then how do I get, how do I find that type of job? Just think of where you do hear them. Like I said, we hear 'em on the bus. You hear 'em on the train, on the subway, the airport. Call up the airport and ask, you know, talk to the manager at the airport and say, Hey, you know, I do voice acting.
You know?
John: Yes. You'd be surprised. Yeah. You know, all of a sudden you're doing the alright. All of a sudden you're the voice. Yeah. At the airport and all, and all it took was for you to contact someone.
Tina: Yeah.
John: So, yeah. That, that's, so, yeah. Again, it's, it's, um, but the reality is mm-hmm. Side hustle reality check is, [00:10:00] it may take you two weeks, it may take you two months.
Mm-hmm. It may take you nine months, but if you keep plugging away, you'll, you'll get the job.
Tina: You will.
John: Okay. Just, um, don't put unreal expectations. Mm-hmm. And I think that's what the reality check here is. Don't. Don't go, oh, if, you know, and also don't do this from a desperate point of view. I tell people, you get into voiceovers, you should absolutely start doing this on the side.
Tina: Yes, yes.
John: Don't do that thing where like, I don't care how good I, if you and I meet at a webinar. Mm-hmm. Self plug, if you, yeah. If you and I meet at an intro to voice acting webinar and I think your voice sounds amazing. Okay. It doesn't mean you're gonna get a job right away.
Tina: No, no.
John: I, it, it's not how this works.
Right. Um, it means I think your voice is amazing. Mm-hmm. And you could absolutely do this, but don't leverage that in your mind. And, and also don't quit your job. Don't go, John thought I was amazing. I'm gonna quit job. Get the voiceovers. No.
Tina: Yeah,
John: absolutely. Do this on the side. And as you start to get work.
You may be able to move this into [00:11:00] something more full-time. Mm-hmm. If that's your goal. That's not everyone's goal.
Tina: No.
John: Some people love their other job. They just really like to do this on the side 'cause it's creative and different from what they're doing and they like to make a little money on the side.
Yeah. And that's fine too.
Tina: Yeah.
John: Whatever your goals are. Part-time. Full-time. Supplemental retirement, that's all. Cool. You can absolutely do that here.
Tina: Oh yeah. Absolutely. Just, but just keep at it.
John: Yes. This is extremely flexible. Mm-hmm. But just, yeah. Keep plugging away.
Tina: Yeah.
John: So that's, that's our, uh. Reality, it can be done.
Also, reality check. Yeah, absolutely.
Tina: It can be done.
John: Yep. So there you go. I mean, we're really,
Tina: I don't know what's wrong with us today.
John: We're still, we're just, you know, we're, we're on it today. Uh, so now, um, again, I wanna just reiterate this. Any questions at all, email us. Yes. You know, we haven't been getting a lot of new questions.
I have gotten some questions from people and I would like to do. Uh, a listener questions episode again, but we're just not getting a ton of questions. Mm-hmm. They're the kind of repeat questions, and so I would encourage people who, if you've sent me questions recently and you're wondering why I haven't answered them mm-hmm.
I did [00:12:00] go back to listener questions. I did answer them, answered them. I did, and so did Tina. Tina also answered them.
Tina: I also do sometimes.
John: Yeah. So we both answered them for you. But uh, you know,
Tina: any questions? Anytime? Anytime. That's, I always tell. Yeah, there you go. Reach out at any time. We'll help you out as much as
John: we can.
Yeah, so, so again, John [email protected]
Tina: and TA voice coaches.com.
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Tina and John talk about the realities of getting into VO as a side hustle.
