Voice Coaches Radio #493 – Work is Work
It was given to me for Father's Day. And, um, I don't know if it's true, but, uh, you know, I hope it's true. Based on the way you talk about your kid, I'm gonna say yes. My little buddy's my man. That's my man. That's my bud. Um, he's the Hey, you know what I've actually had a lot lately? Lot of students coming at me going.
Oh my god. I've listened to you on the podcast Can I wait? Oh, I want to make a shout out. Oh, yeah, go for it Uh airy because she actually just started following me on Instagram, but she I had her for her first class I think and I mean I'm not gonna throw her under the bus, but she like was Because apparently she listens to the podcast all the time and then all of a sudden there I was on Zoom talking to her, and she's like, wait a minute, this is weird.
Uh so I have had people every, every now and again will be like, especially if they're like in studio now with Zoom also, because they can they can see us because we never used to do that were like here are some be like, like, wait a minute, were you Are you the guy on the pod? Now, previously on the pod, old school pod, when I used to do it with Sam, he had a nickname for me, which was Baby Bear.
Uh, don't ask. It's not, it's not worth getting into. No, but I will ask off the air. But I used to have people literally, are you Baby Bear? And I'm like, God. Yeah, I suppose. I suppose I am. So, uh, I mean, I technically still am, I imagine, but um, but not, uh, not quite as frequently. And I'm okay with that, by the way.
I may have to start calling you that just because I now know it's a thing. Outstanding. Yeah, it's a great thing. It's a great thing. I actually don't remember the exact genesis of it, but, uh, it was something, uh, who knows? Who knows? Anyway, um, so last week, if you'll recall, um, I talked about, uh, uh, uh, imposter syndrome, right?
Talked about, you know, going forward, even if you don't think you're probably good enough to get it or probably not going to get it. And I was talking about auditioning for, uh, for that audio book and, uh, it was like one of 10 that it would have been an awesome opportunity and, uh, and how I kind of waited and waited and waited and almost waited too long.
Right. Yeah. How'd that go? Did you hear back? I did hear back. I heard back the beginning of this week. And didn't get it. Aww, bummer. Didn't get it. Which I kind of, you know, I mean, look, when you audition for things, you, you need to believe that you're good enough to get it, and I fully believe that I was.
But you also need to understand that statistically, you're probably not. Um, and that's okay. It makes the, the fall a little, a little softer. Uh, again, disappointing, sure, but. You know, not a big deal. Well, it's just like we tell people all the time. It's like your voice just isn't going to fit everything and that's okay.
You know, even though it sounds to you like it's going to fit, you know, the author or whoever it is has something in mind already. Well, and yeah, I mean, I, I, you know, who knows who he chose? I have no idea. I'll be curious. Um, you know, in a few months, maybe I'll check it out and see if, uh, if the audio was posted for it.
Just as curiosity. Really? Just so you can be like, I am. It's so much better than that! Well, yeah, I mean, I would say the same, but yes, yeah, that's exactly why I would do that. Or, or, conversely, be like, oh no, that was the right choice, like, alright, I get it, I get it. Um, that happened to me once, I auditioned for a book, I didn't get it, um, I was a finalist for it, I didn't end up getting it, and the guy he chose was British.
And I was like, oh, I didn't picture this with a British accent, alright, I get it, I don't have one. Like, that's, that's, I don't have one, I don't know what to tell you. You're right, I don't have one, I'm from Massachusetts, I definitely am not British. You know, and so, uh, quite the opposite. Um, but, you know, even though I am from New England, ha!
Wordplay. Right, right. Wordplay. Um, but, you know, here's the thing, and I tell people this, like, when you're in this industry, you are going to, this is not an if, this is a when, you are going to get turned down. You are going to get rejected. That is going to happen. Don't worry about it. It's not a big deal.
Right? Pick up the pieces. Keep on going. Yeah, don't let it, I mean, don't, I mean, it's disappointing. Obviously, we all get disappointed, but it's gonna happen. That's the nature of any of these. you know, types of industries, any of these performance industries. Right. And you know, that's the way it is. You're going to get turned down.
Okay. Big deal. Big deal. So yeah, so I didn't get that, uh, you know, that, that book, I got an offer for a different book two days later on Wednesday. I look at you fancy guy over there. It's not, not that big of a deal. It's small, thank you. It's a small little, little. little random thing that we'll, we'll talk about in a sec.
But, you know, again, you know, you win some, you lose some. It happens. But that should not, and I'm still glad that I, that I went for it. Because if I didn't go for it, if I didn't do that audition, then I'd still be in the same position I am today. So what was the harm? What was the harm? There's no harm. Go for it.
Being told no and then being like, oh, bummer. But it lasts for about like 35 seconds and then you move on. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like I got the email and I was like, oh, okay. Moving on. Moving on. Um, so we, we are moving on. And, um, so you have a, a, a, a, a published audio book now. I do. Yeah. Have you looked it up on like Amazon and like Audible?
Not, um. Well, I followed the link that they gave me, so I was like, Oh my God, it's unaudible. Oh my God, it says narrated by Marissa Lanshack, how fancy, uh, you know, so, um, so yeah, I mean, that was pretty cool. I, I literally, my, the first one that I did, when I saw it up on Amazon, I took a screenshot of the Amazon page.
I think I have it on my, my photo. Well, it's important, right? You want to celebrate your successes. Like that's cool. Like your name is on Amazon. That's awesome. Like there's nothing wrong with that. That's super cool. Congratulations. Thank you. And I just feel like, um. You know, I've done so much commercial work and I've done like a lot of podcasting and radio and just like different things that have been thrown my way for years, but this was a totally different thing to tackle.
And I, I'm not going to say that I wasn't sure I could do it. Obviously I knew I could do it, but there was a lot of technical things, you know, learning throughout the process, this, this first book. So I was just like, you know, just waiting for them to be like, yeah, this isn't going to be approved because you need to do XYZ.
Um, and then all of a sudden it was like, No, you don't have to fix anything. It's already on Audible. I'm like, what? Like, you know, it just felt like, I don't know. I got reassured after a really solid year of no reassurance, right? For, you know, 2020 to have that reassurance of like, yeah, you're in the right place.
Like, keep going. Uh, it felt pretty nice. And that's the thing. I think all of us need to have enough self confidence to say, I know I can do this. That being said, um, you know, having that, getting that job, seeing it up there is. It's, you know, that, that's, we all need that. We all need that to know like, okay, I believe I can do this, but now I'm actually, it's actually done.
And that's, uh, that, that is, that's, that's something. That's absolutely something. So congratulations! Thank you! Woo! Um, awesome. So, um, you know, I, I mentioned that, uh, that I didn't get the, the, the books that I was hoping for, but I did get another offer, which is great, and I, I'm going to be doing that, uh, next week.
And, uh, and that's all fine and good and great. Also, the, uh, uh, the, the, the big book that I did, the, uh, the big science fiction book that I did, I did hear back finally from the author. Uh, after about two and a half weeks. Uh, It was a lot of listening. It was a lot of listening, and it was his first, uh, his first real book.
And his first audio book. And so he listened to the entire thing. And, like, I'm pretty sure listened to it while, with the book, like, he went through it, um, he loved it, I have some edits I gotta make, so hopefully, uh, that'll be done next week. So that's, that's that. So. You got this. Thank you. Appreciate that.
Yeah. Anytime. Um, there's nothing major, just some small, small little editing things, which is, which is fine, which is fine. But, uh, so I, the other offer I got was, uh, this is a small little book that, uh, that I'll be doing, and it is, uh, it's about, uh, Kindle Unlimited. Yes, it is about Kindle Unlimited, and how to get the most out of your Kindle Unlimited plan.
Well, I mean that sounds And it's from the same, uh, from the same publisher, uh, that I did a previous book with, that is called Your Sleek and Sexy iPhone 12. Oh, look at you in the digital community. Oh yeah, I mean, and here's the thing, I don't have an iPhone 12. I have, I don't know what I have, the SE or something, the cheaper one.
Um, I also don't have Kindle Unlimited, though I do have a Kindle. Um. And so, you know, look, is it, is it going to be very exciting? It is not. Um, it is not. I've already taken a peek at the manuscript. It's not the most exciting I already fell asleep while I was reading it. I mean, and here's the thing. I don't care.
It's work. It's work. This is a job, this is work, and you're going to invariably, you know, have opportunities to do things that are just not the most exciting, not the most fun things in the world to do. Now, a lot of what we do is that, like that science fiction book. That was awesome. I enjoyed every moment, well, not every moment, but I enjoyed most moments of that.
Um, the editing, not so much. But I enjoyed, I enjoyed that. That was a ton of fun, and I'm hoping to do that again. The other ones, yeah, okay. I mean, it's, it's work. It's work. I've done voicemail pieces. Not the most exciting, you know, jobs in the world, but they're jobs. So I, I think it's important that we have the luxury to pick and choose the types of, of jobs and work that we get.
So if there's something you're not comfortable with, if there's something that you don't like or don't enjoy, you do not under any circumstances have to do it. Ever. I've, you know. I wouldn't say I've turned down jobs, but I have, uh, uh, refrained from auditioning for pieces. Uh, when I've kind of looked more into, you know, for certain books or whatnot, when I've, you know, read a little bit more into it and been like, that's not something I necessarily want to do.
I'll admit, I've been a little picky when it comes to my auditioning. That's okay. Just because like, and just like you, like, we're busy people. So it's like, if I'm going to audition for something, I want it to be something that In my free time, I don't feel awful doing it, right? And the other thing is, I mean, think about, you know, especially for something like an audiobook, think about the amount of time you're going to spend doing that.
So, um, the book that I did was 14 and a half hours, give or take, when it was done. And I'm getting paid for 14 and a half hours, by the way. Fantastic. Uh, it takes longer than that to record it because I'm going to be honest, I didn't do it all in one take, sadly. Uh, I know that's a shocker to most people. I am almost perfect, but not really.
Uh, practically perfect in every way. Number one dad. That's right. That's right. Yes. Yes. Um, that was a Mary Poppins reference, by the way, in case anyone was curious. Uh, anyway, um, but you know, so how long did it take to actually record? Uh, I think I'd say conservatively 18 hours, maybe. Eh, something like that.
I think that's about right. But then, I had to edit it. All of it. In real time. And that takes more than just the time to listen back to it. So, the 18 or so hours that I was recording it, great. Editing it probably took 20 to 25 hours. So we're talking now 40 to 45 hours of work, by the way, still getting paid for 14 and a half, um, just throwing that out there.
But, you know, that's a lot of time, that's 40 hours, that's a work week, um, of, you know, this one project. And so you, if you're, if you're gonna spend that much time with something, you want to make sure it's not something you, you know, you're, you're adamantly against. Though, and so there's a, there's a tightrope that we walk, right?
Being picky, choosing things that we want to, to be a part of, which is fantastic. On the other hand, especially for those early in their, in their careers, uh, which we both still technically are. Yep. Right? We really both still technically are. For, for this side of the things, yeah. Absolutely. And that is getting experience, taking what you can get.
So there's, there's a fine line there, right? You should not do things that you're not comfortable doing. Right? You should never feel like you have to do a project if you're not comfortable being a part of it. And by the way, having your voice and your name attached to it, um, forever. And ever and ever, right?
So you want to make sure that that's something that you're okay with. But at the same time, not, you know, uh, skewing opportunities just because they're not going to be that much fun, right? Just because, you know, well, it's not, you know, not the most exciting thing in the world. So there's, there's a line to, to, to walk of doing things that you feel okay doing and doing things that maybe aren't the most exciting and fun things in the world, but doing them to get that experience.
We all have to do that. And that paycheck though. And that. Then that paycheck, absolutely. Absolutely, not gonna sneeze at that at all. Nah, that might be an electric bill. Hey, you don't pay it off. Listen, I mean, you, you, whatever it is, right? So, uh, you know, I, this science fiction book is paying for my studio.
My, my home student that I put together last year, that, that, it just recouped all the money from that in one fell swoop, um, which is fantastic. And this Kindle book might pay for your Dunkin next week, you know? There, and, uh, I mean, yeah, yeah, it would, it would do that. It would do that. It didn't pay much, but that's okay.
That's all right. It's okay, it's a free coffee. You love free coffee. We talked about that before. You ain't wrong. You ain't wrong. Of all coffee, free coffee especially tastes better. Except for the Keurig coffee that we have in here, it's not that great. Um, but it is free, so I'm not gonna sneeze at that either.
David's gonna hear that and he's gonna be so mad. Right? I know, we need to get some creamer up in here though, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you know. He's gonna pull you into a meeting. I'd say, I heard you didn't like our coffee. It's not that I don't like it, it's just that, you know, whatever, we could be better.
It's Keurig, that's all. It's fine. Yeah, I mean, it's fine. It is what it is. It's worth the price. It's got caffeine. It's worth the price. It does. And that's really, at the end of the day, that's all I'm really concerned about, clearly. We know this. So yeah, I mean, I think that's important. Like, we want to do things we want to do.
And that's why we get into this. No one's making us do this. And so, you know, we're doing this because we enjoy doing it, because we love doing it, and we should, you know, make sure that we're doing projects that we want to do, that are fun to do. If you're gonna spend 40 hours on a project, make sure it's something that you don't mind doing for 40 hours.
That's a lot of time. That's a lot of commitment. Um, but at the same time, You know, understand that you might do things that, you know, aren't that. And that's okay too. And that's okay too. Because we are getting that experience. We are paying our dues, as it were. Look, I'd love to, you know, for each and every one of you to only have to do the things, or only, only do the things that you love to do and want to do.
That'd be amazing. Yeah, could you imagine if that's how life was? Oh my god, we'd all be such happy people. It would be. I mean, look, you know, love what you do and you'll never work again. Which is why I would just be surrounded by boy bands at all times. Oh, see, there you go. All time. But no, love what you do and you'll never work again, which is why every Friday morning is hard work.
It is. Hard work. No, I'm just kidding. I love it. the studio with Josh. It's tough. It is. I agree. I'm a tough person to be around. You have not done the bye bye bye dance once for me. Um. Okay, well, there's a few things. Number one, I can't dance. Oh, come on. Everybody can do bye bye bye. I was not, I mean, it's like the elbow elbow elbow.
Ba da da da da dunt. I mean, I know what it is, okay? I know what it is. I can't dance, first of all. Second of all, I was not really into boy bands, I'm going to be honest with you. You don't have to be. I just want you to dance and sing, that's all. I mean, look, uh, yeah, okay, I'll keep that. My son dances. Bring him in.
I will. I will. He loves dancing. He loves dancing. He did a, he, uh, he had a recital a couple weeks ago. How'd it go? Um, Okay. Wait, we talked about it, right? Like, it. On stage, dancing. Dance, he danced. Maybe don't have him come in and dance for me, because he's just going to cry, and I'm just, I can't, I don't think it was on stage, and like, couldn't really see us in the audience, and the lights were on, and I think it was the whole confluence of things.
I don't know. But, um, but no, I mean, so yeah, don't, don't expect me. I'll sing for you. I ain't going to dance for you. Um, and trust me, that's for the betterment of everybody. And for those of you listening who can't see, just be grateful because me dancing is just, it is, it's embarrassing for all, for everybody, for everybody involved.
But it could be so great for me though. Yes. Well, uh, well, Maybe later. Um, so anyway, this is why this is a podcast, not a video podcast because yikes. Yikes. I'm very awkward. I'm a very awkward person by nature and when I dance it is, it is just, just amped up. It's just amped up awkwardness. You're just making it more enticing for me.
That's all you're doing. That's what I'm doing. I'm just teasing it. That's all. That's all. Um, I'll tell you what, you know, maybe for a special occasion, I'll, I'll, I'll break out some moves. Oh my goodness. 500th episode. That's coming up, by the way. That's coming up. 500th episode is right around the corner.
We're in what? This is 493. Holy cow! We're like, yeah! So we're, we're like, we're a couple months away from, uh, it's, it's, It's early October. That's when we switch to video! October 8th is going to be the, when we release our 500th episode of Voice Coaches Radio. My goodness. Um, and, uh, and, and we are just a small part of that.
But, uh, I'd say an integral part. No, uh, we are a small part of that, of that history, and, and obviously honored to be so, but we will be having some, uh, some throwbacks for the 500th episode, so definitely want to, want to make sure you're tuning in for that one on October the 8th, uh, for episode number 500.
But for episode number 494, which is next week, we'd be happy to talk about whatever you'd like us to talk about, because... It's not just our show, it's yours as well. JoshuaFourScrooges. com, you like that? That was really good. That was so good, that was so smooth. Thank you, come on now. Um, much smoother than my dance moves.
So, uh, so if you do have anything you want us to, uh, want us to chat about, want us to, uh, to discuss, we'd be more than happy to do so. Um, or we could just continue just to, you know. Blabber. Chew the fat and, you know, apparently y'all listen. Make no sense. Which is fantastic. Bramble. And we thank you. And we thank you for listening.
Thank you to, uh, what'd you say? Arielle? Is that it? Yeah, no, Ari, uh, Arianna. Arianna. Arianna, thank you so much for listening. And thank you all for listening. Uh, not just Arianna, but you as well. All y'all. If you'd like a shout out. Just let me know. I'd be happy to shout you guys out. Just let us know. I'm all about the shout outs.
I mean, we could shout. We could take a whole episode and just shout out all our listeners and it would take It's the radio in me. I can't help it. That's alright. That's alright. Nothing wrong with that. Uh, shout out to all our sponsors. Um, we don't, we don't have them. Voice coaches. Sponsor, um, there we go.
Yeah. Oh, we need sound effects. That's true. I'm just providing them all today. That's fine. Hey, I'm all right with it I'm, all right with it. Um, i'll do the singing you do the sound effects and no dancing. What an amazing show we have Oh, yes. Yes Uh, it's uh, josh and marissa in the morning I stole that from Community.
Okay. I don't know if you've ever watched Community. Nah. Oh, you gotta ask questions. You're pulling out all the things I've never seen. Yeah, that's alright. That's alright. That's not very difficult to do, by the way, as it turns out. Yeah. As it turns out. Uh, so anyway, uh, JoshuaVoiceCoaches. com, easiest way to get in touch with us.
If you have any questions, comments, concerns, anything you'd like us Discuss for next week's episode. We'd love to do it. We'd love to do it again. 500 episode coming up. So, uh, be sure to, uh, to stick around for that. October the 8th is episode number 500, which is bananas. Uh, so definitely stick around for that.
That's going to be a pretty cool one, hopefully. And, uh, but yeah, again, anything you'd like us to discuss, uh, let us know. Let us know and, uh, any comments that you, uh, that you have, anything you'd like us to, uh, uh, to work on, certainly happy to do. Uh, so Marissa, thanks so much for joining us this week. You gots it!
And, uh, we'll be back next week, same bad time, same bad channel. Until then, so long everyone. Visit voicecoaches. com for more voiceover news and information.
This week, Josh and Marissa talk about the line between choosing work that you enjoy, and taking work to get experience. This industry allows you to choose jobs you are truly passionate about; but there is something to be said for getting experience wherever you can.